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Mon 17 Sep 2012 10:35AM

creating Federation working group

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altruism Mon 17 Sep 2012 1:59PM

I forgot this one, sorry:
http://loom.io/discussions/615

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elf Pavlik Mon 17 Sep 2012 8:08PM

@altruism thank you for sharing those links!

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Josef Weitzel Thu 20 Sep 2012 5:48AM

I just joined. Federation is exactly the topic that made me want to get invited onto Loomio.

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Sean Tilley Thu 20 Sep 2012 6:19AM

I think there are some hurdles to keep in mind:

  1. A lot of different projects right now have different ways of federating. Friendica uses Zot, StatusNet uses OStatus, and BuddyCloud uses Activity Streams over XMPP. They're all probably going to use their own federation protocols for at least a while, rather than working to standardize on one. So, this means we'll probably have to think of ways to translate each other's protocols. Perhaps we could set up different kinds of backends for our federation system to make use of in the interim.

  2. We can have the best federation spec on the planet, but that's only half the issue. We also need to improve how our pods receive and broadcast user data and content. Maxwell explained it in this sense, and I think it's an accurate statement: "You can know how to speak many different languages, but if your vocal chords aren't very developed, you're going to run into problems."

So, we need to not only think about how Diaspora could federate with other platforms, or even other pods, but we need to think about how D* handles incoming and outgoing federated data.

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Jason Robinson Thu 20 Sep 2012 7:28AM

Sean makes an important point - federation is broken on D* not because of language but ability (afaik). Still it's important to make sure we have the best language and that we have a group who is interested in working on improving the language with other parties as well.

Ps. Support for the group is quite strong. I'd say strong enough to already create it? ;)

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Sean Tilley Thu 20 Sep 2012 8:58AM

Consider it done. Motion passed!

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Sean Tilley Thu 20 Sep 2012 8:59AM

Extending discussion here: http://loom.io/discussions/814

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goob Thu 20 Sep 2012 10:59AM

Motion passed!

That laxatives are working then, Sean? (sorry)

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Jason Robinson Thu 20 Sep 2012 11:38AM

Goob, let's use common sense here...

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Nick Sat 17 Aug 2013 3:28PM

Did this working group happen? I also created a discussion about what federation protocol we use here: https://www.loomio.org/discussions/6233

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OpenLifeChallenge Mon 14 Oct 2013 9:13AM

What's going on in the federation workgroup? Where are you discussing? @elfpavlik

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Jason Robinson Mon 14 Oct 2013 9:55AM

The working group is here, in the aptly named subgroup Federation Discussions : https://www.loomio.org/groups/259

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Flaburgan Fri 18 Oct 2013 9:39PM

@mawnt1as the current work on the federation as a separate layer in diaspora can be followed on github

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MatthiasM Sat 19 Oct 2013 6:13PM

FYI I contacted the MediaGobblin team to join this discussion and to work together at tis complex topic, so hopefully it will become a wider use:
http://issues.mediagoblin.org/ticket/803

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MatthiasM Sun 20 Oct 2013 12:25PM

YACY also contacted, but they are a bit more in P2P
http://forum.yacy-websuche.de/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4833
Nevertheless I guess they already have a lot experience in DC protocol design :)

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Maciek Łoziński Thu 20 Mar 2014 10:50AM

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Jonne Haß Thu 20 Mar 2014 12:33PM

Doesn't make much sense to me, this is a meta proposal for creating that group, so back then the group didn't exist.