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Buying a New Comp Set

EB Erik Boyd Public Seen by 140

Alright folks, at today's meeting we discussed purchasing another set of competition weights. Here were the details of that discussion:

-We want to ensure the second set does not get lost
-It would be a quick win for the LWC to help us to more effectively enforce the standards we wish to set, and also to have a nice, brand new set for our new, reinvigorated LWC Championships.
-As of current, the precedent is that the first set stays at President’s gym
-We are looking to set a standard for the sets so that they don't get misplaced.
-Should we set the rule above (set 1 at president's gym) in stone?
-Does the suggestion of the second set being at the Vice President’s gym make sense?
-Looking towards the future, might we consider a third set (possibly held at Takano’s gym)?
-Should we go with Eleiko, Rogue, or another company?
-Setting standards for broken or missing equipment (suggested possibility at the meeting was that it was the responsibility of last user and replacement is at the cost of the last user).

Let's discuss all of this with the objective of determining some, or all, of the below:

-Should we purchase a set?
-What set should we go with?
-Where should it be housed?
-What sort of system (ie: a ledger for tracking and ensuring the quality of the equipment) should be put in place to regulate the set?

EB

Erik Boyd Sun 20 Jan 2019 7:29PM

Hey folks, I just want to quickly remind people to get involved in this discussion. What are peoples' thoughts here?

BT

Benjamin Timm Tue 22 Jan 2019 2:53AM

I think We have a great oppurtunity to maybe purchase a full set at Youth Worlds in Vegas.

AP

Anthony Pomponio Tue 22 Jan 2019 4:54AM

i think we need to figure out how big mile wise the LWC is, maybe break it down into 3 sections and then purchase 2 more sets, as we can prob get a good deal on 2 sets as Ben mentioned above from Youth worlds, I think a host gym should not have to drive any more than 50 miles in order to pick up a set, san diego, orange county-Inland Empire, and LA area ....1 ,2 ,3

AP

Anthony Pomponio Tue 22 Jan 2019 4:55AM

We can even go through Eleiko or Rogue? I have a few good connections at eleiko i can message if we decide to go through with this.

BT

Benjamin Timm Tue 22 Jan 2019 5:41AM

If you could find out what the Cost would be to get maybe 1 or 2 sets from Las Vegas then i say hell ya. I think getting 2 sets now has its merits

EB

Erik Boyd Tue 22 Jan 2019 5:40AM

That might not be a bad idea. I guess we mostly just need to figure out:
1. What will the primary purpose of the comp set(s) be (ie: maybe going for higher quality for the purpose of our LWC and eventually star championships means Eleiko is the better option, or maybe we want to budget for other things and so a more economical set would suffice)?
2. When do we need to have them?
3. Related to 1, what are we willing to pay?

BT

Benjamin Timm Tue 22 Jan 2019 5:49AM

Good Questions. I think Having 2-3 High Quality Sets will not only help raise the quality of the meet but can also provide our LWC athletes with the chance to lift on an Eleiko or Rogue Bearing bar. Lots of gyms can not afford these types of things.

As for timeline, I think we were to purchase 1-2 more sets in the next few months its a easy win for the LWC and shows we have been doing things. This will also allow the LWC to possible run 1-3 platform Meets.

Price is always a concern and i know we can get a full on rogue set with 2 bearing bars its $3,130 + tax and shipping. No Idea what the Cost would be of a eleiko set through Pomps connection but i bet it could be close.

AP

Anthony Pomponio Tue 22 Jan 2019 4:13PM

Yea man we can get quotes on it, maybe also ask Phil if rogue would give us a discount on them since they are the official supplier of USAW i'm sure they will do something for us since its not for the actual club its to benefit our LWC at a whole, if anything its good marketing for them to have more lifters use there barbell. I will message Phil right now and see what he says.

But yes we can run 2 platform comps! when i went to texas for there state champs they ran 2 platforms and it was awesome!

CA

Chris Amenta Wed 23 Jan 2019 8:35PM

I am on board with Rogue, but just to throw it out there, the Uesaka rep told me that they are providing all the equipment for youth worlds, and we will be able to purchase comp sets for very cheap & save on shipping costs. what are your thoughts?

EB

Erik Boyd Wed 23 Jan 2019 10:37PM

I mean, if we can get a good price on it, why not? When is youth worlds btw? Maybe we can get quotes from each and figure out what will be the cheapest, and also determine what quality will be necessary.

BT

Benjamin Timm Fri 25 Jan 2019 3:07AM

I say we get a quote from Rogue, Eleiko, and Uesaka. For both 1 and 2 full sets.

I can email Taylor who is Pomps Contact at Rogue, I believe @anthonypomponio is going to email Eleiko? and @chrisamenta if you can maybe ask the Uesaka Rep what we would be looking at price wise.

BT

Benjamin Timm Wed 30 Jan 2019 5:54AM

Got a Quote From Rogue. No real discount. Basically it would be $3500 for 1 set and $7000 for 2. I have attached the quote below.

EB

Erik Boyd Wed 30 Jan 2019 2:28PM

Hmmm... is there a possibility to get a quote from Uesaka for what we would get if we purchased at youth worlds in March? Those prices aren’t horrible but I would think we could get some sort of discount, at least if we buy at worlds, and I would think someone would give the LWC a discount too.

AP

Anthony Pomponio Wed 30 Jan 2019 2:39PM

Ya i can reach out to them on insta unless someone else wants to? Also im in talks with eleiko they will be giving me 2 quotes for new and used.

AP

Anthony Pomponio Wed 30 Jan 2019 10:16PM

Here are the eleiko quotes should be two of them
1. slightly used set
2. New set

AP

Anthony Pomponio Wed 30 Jan 2019 10:17PM

BT

Benjamin Timm Wed 30 Jan 2019 11:52PM

Thanks Pomp. @chrisamenta Can you reach out to Uesaka and get a quote from them?

EB

Erik Boyd Thu 31 Jan 2019 6:09PM

After seeing all the quotes I feel like Rogue is perfectly acceptable quality for our purposes (I don't think there's any concern of needing IWF sanctioned equipment. As long as it is USAW sanctioned we should be fine IMO), and really, given the extreme difference in price, I almost think it's a no brainer to purchase 2 Rogue sets now, tbh. Are there any others we haven't considered though? Ivanko maybe?

CF

Christopher Francisco Sat 2 Feb 2019 9:20AM

Hey everyone.... catching up with everything... my Uesaka Rep says he can get us 15% off on a new set. Youth worlds are pretty much 15% off as well but used. I can inquire further if interested but y'all know it's still pricey.