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Commons Transition Wiki and Published Proposals

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This can be an ongoing thread about the publishing activities.

NL

Nicole Leonard Fri 16 Dec 2016 12:35AM

This is great... so it seems we have some commitments to get Energy, Digital, and also Food and Territorial commons into a state that is publishable within the next few weeks.

Which others do we think are publishable? How can we identify these and invite people to revise?

DH

David hammerstein Thu 15 Dec 2016 7:28AM

As Sophie has suggested, if we want to give the them the title "EU policy proposals" (which is not at all an obligation) and if we want them to be useful and/or pedagogical for policymakers we need to translate our general principles into proposals on concrete legislation being considered with possible parliamentary instruments, language or initiatives. What is on the EU agenda today and precisely how would we want to influence it? Other kinds of general proposals could be interesting and useful on a more theoretical and philosophical level.

SJ

Sophie Jerram Fri 16 Dec 2016 8:26AM

thanks NicoleI’m painfully aware I started to contribute to the cultural commons work too and this will need some development. Probably not part of the first tranche unless others step in.
Cheers

SK

Sunna Kovanen Sun 1 Jan 2017 8:48PM

Dear all,

This sounds all good. I would be willing to publish the proposal on welfare policies and social commons but I have to confirm with the other writers. As far as I remember we are very much happy with it as it is. I am sorry for jumping in a little late but I understand that it's still open, whether we publish through ECA or Wiki? So I suppose we can still join.

I quickly summarize the main open question as I got it now:
Sophie was suggesting to use the ECA website with more coherence in the layout and target in the text. For the wider visibility this makes sense, so does the idea of the book. Some others were suggesting Wiki to enable commenting and cross-reference to other policy proposals and this is good for the discussion.

I would like to enable the discussion in the wiki on the proposals but otherwise I have no preference for the main/first publishing platform. I agree with @panayotis that as long as there´s many people not commenting we should keep the re-edit possibility open via hackpad, at least for the non-published ones, and that the works-in-progess, published ones, events, etc. should have one clear place each

@rubyvanderwekken I don´t see how the publishing should prohibit the further commenting on the local level? The edit- and publishing processes can run parallel and eventually the first version can be republished if needed.

NL

Nicole Leonard Wed 25 Jan 2017 5:00PM

Hi everyone, hope you all had a good Christmas. Some of you might have seen the post in the Communications group by @cecileblanchet ... well the Zemos videos are ready and we are planning to release them all publicly next week. Then over the following month, we will highlight one of the videos every week with some related links, information... and we thought that we could also link to the relevant policy proposal. So this comms strategy is also an opportunity to start getting proposals published in a manageable way, one by one. I have taken on the responsibility of talking with authors etc. and moving this along.

@staccotroncoso and @ann marie , this means we need to make some decisions on formatting and hosting etc. so I know what to ask of the authors

Here is the schedule. The Food and Territorial Commons proposals are pretty developed already so it's more about framing and decided what to include and what not.

Food commons - Feb. 08
City commons - Feb. 15 (I am thinking about what the relevant proposal here would be)
Energy commons - Feb. 22
Diem real talk - Mar. 01 (ditto)

Does this make sense? Should we have a call?

Thanks
Nicole

ST

Stacco Troncoso Wed 25 Jan 2017 8:18PM

Makes sense and sounds good! Work on the Commons Transition Wiki was interrupted over Christmas because of technical upgrades, but it's ready to go now. So far @joseluisviveropol has been very kind in providing me "ready-to-go" versions of "Food Commons in Europe" and "Territories of the Commons". As soon as any of the others are approved, I can format them quite quickly.

NL

Nicole Leonard Thu 26 Jan 2017 7:43AM

@cecileblanchet Just for info - it seems jose luis has already been in touch on this! good news. Stacco, I'll be working Wednesdays and Fridays primarily so keep me posted on how this is going - as I said, we need these up before Feb 8

ST

Stacco Troncoso Thu 26 Jan 2017 3:20PM

Ok, here's the first published policy proposal!

The food commons in Europe: Relevance, challenges and proposals to support them

Couple of comments:

  • If you scroll down to the table of contents you'll see that you can jump directly to any section of the proposal. If you then copy the url in the navigation bar, you can hyperlink directly to specific sections. This may come in handy later.
  • All the footnotes have jump-to/return links.
  • There is a discussion tab (just like wikipedia) for sugggestions and aditions.
  • We're still working on the semantic wiki structure with Yves Otis and Javier. Once this work is done, we will be able to create category pages for multi-category search. For example we can then generate results combining a) policy proposals, on Food and agriculture. I think this will enrich the ECA's proposals and content.
  • Once we have a few more proposals in, I will make a nice "splash page" for the Policy proposals, probably using the same type of graphics I've used at the begging of this entry.
  • This kind of formatting will make it easier to convert the texts to other formats for e-book publication etc.

I'll follow up with "Territories of the Commons".

Formatting wise, a couple of remarks to make this go easier:

  • Try to use headings, whether it's in Hackpad or a word processor (heading 1, 2, etc). This is so we can quickly determine the hierarchy of the sub-sections (It's how the table of contents is generated)
  • Jose sent the proposal as .doc with all the images and footnotes. That facilitated the process. If you want me to pick the text up from hackpad but there's additional images or footnotes, get in touch!
  • I could do with some wiki-formatting help. I'll ask here first but, if there's no more wiki-savy people in the group (@fredericsultan is already helping), I may ask in the mailing list. :clap:
CB

Cecile Blanchet Fri 27 Jan 2017 10:31AM

That's very good @staccotroncoso ! I will have a look later on more but already looks good. I am unfortunately unable to help with the wiki, sorry. Have all a very nice week-end!

ST

Stacco Troncoso Fri 27 Jan 2017 11:10AM

@joseluisviveropol mentioned the possibility of PDF's for the proposals. This can be done and I've attached a mock-up here. I need to figure out how to link the footnotes properly, as well as the menu items. If someone is PDF-formatting savvy, please help.

The problem with PDFs is that is a "read-only" format, and it's very difficult to copy text from them. Not the most "commons" protocol, as this article by Nathan Schneider explains.

For now the best approach is to offer both formats, PDF for those who prefer it AND wiki, for those who want better navigation, the ability to comment etc. If the level of quality of the PDF mockup is acceptable, I think we can produce them for all the papers. Meanwhile we can also explore about E-Pub versions, to phase out PDFs.

NL

Nicole Leonard Fri 27 Jan 2017 11:31AM

Awesome! So now the question becomes: where do we link these? Can we start posting them on the website? I think it might be better to wait a bit until we have a few more proposals up so that we don't look like we only have one subject.... but then again it's a shame to leave the food proposal floating with no way to access it.

I guess we can also just wait to Feb. 8 and then it will start to circulate :)

JLV

Jose Luis Vivero Pol Fri 27 Jan 2017 12:16PM

Dear @StaccoP2P and Nicole,
Thanks for the formatting. The PDFs can be copy-pasted (although they loos some formatting). This one can be copied.
Considering that formatting the text in different lay-outs may facilitate its reading and outreach (i.e. for those who want to print to read it later), I would rather opt for a smaller letter size (reducing the number of pages). The current size seems very big. I would also justify the paragraphs, to avoid the feeling it is not formatted. I would have different sizes for the references (smaller than the text).
Finally, although I understand the opinions are like water drops (millions can be found in a glass), I would rather put something different in the cover.
I also support the idea of distributing the texts in different formats: Wiki, PDF and Open Word
I am working now in the summary to present the video and accompanying text plus the pictures.
Best
Jose Luis

ST

Stacco Troncoso Mon 30 Jan 2017 10:53AM

Hi gang.

Awesome! So now the question becomes: where do we link these? Can we start posting them on the website? I think it might be better to wait a bit until we have a few more proposals up so that we don't look like we only have one subject.... but then again it's a shame to leave the food proposal floating with no way to access it.

Yeah, it’d be better to link to a menu page, which can only be constructed once we have, I dunno, at least six up. These will be linked to from the video campaign though, and we can also share them in Social media along with an announcement that the rest are coming along.

I would rather opt for a smaller letter size (reducing the number of pages). The current size seems very big. I would also justify the paragraphs, to avoid the feeling it is not formatted. I would have different sizes for the references (smaller than the text).

Yeah, this is easily done. Unless anyone objects, I’ll make the changes.

I would rather put something different in the cover.
I also support the idea of distributing the texts in different formats: Wiki, PDF and Open Word

Dear @joseluisviveropol would you prefer photography, similar to what we use in the P2P Foundation blog and CT? That’s easy to source from Creative Commons but, if we go that way, we’d should keep that theme for the rest of the papers so they have a coherent look when they’re put together on a menu page.

JLV

Jose Luis Vivero Pol Mon 30 Jan 2017 11:20AM

Dear Stacco,

Thanks for your agreement on the design suggestions. One of those nice and inspirational pictures you select for the P2P Foundation blog will make it perfectly.

I have just written an email with two texts:
1.- The introductory paragraph to present the video. See below.

Food, a life enabler and a cultural cornerstone with multiple meanings, is governed as a mere commodity by the neoliberal food policies that prevail in Europe. These meanings so relevant to human are reduced to the one of tradeable good (see fig 1) and the value of food is mixed with reduced its price in the market. This video denounces that reductionist approach and presents an alternative narrative to revalue food as a commons (nothing but a social construct) and to recognise the benefits of existing commons-based food systems in Europe (rural-customary and urban-contemporary). This paradigm shift will open up a new set of food policies that will help Europe to transit to a fairer, healthier and more sustainable food system. For a detailed explanation of this approach, see here the policy document presented at the European Assembly of Commons (Brussels, 15-17 November 2016).

NOTE: to incorporate here the link to the full document on Food Commons (either in P2P Wikipedia or in the EAC website).

2.- The second one is the text that could be included as entry blog. We could better discuss abouth length and formatting by direct email. That could be split into two parts or the texts as it is for the Commons Transition website.

Best regards
Jose Luis

ST

Stacco Troncoso Mon 30 Jan 2017 12:03PM

Grand, thanks @joseluisviveropol What's the timeframe for the blog post? I'm exceedingly overwhelmed/busy this week with various committments and deadlines and would rather work on it next week if possible. Thanks

JLV

Jose Luis Vivero Pol Mon 30 Jan 2017 12:15PM

Hello Stacco,
I don't know bcs I am not in the communication committee but I presumed the food commons text should be ready for the 1st February launch.
Please, Cecile, confirm this.
Best
Jose Luis

CB

Cecile Blanchet Wed 1 Feb 2017 9:17AM

Hi @joseluisviveropol , hi @staccotroncoso : on Feb. 8th, we should have a short introduction ready for the website (10-15 lines, WHY-WHAT-HOW style). Just to give some context and incite people to know more. We will then use what is ready in terms of policy proposals and such. We can always update in a few weeks when we have more material. Is this clearer?

ST

Stacco Troncoso Mon 30 Jan 2017 12:25PM

If by the text you mean the Policy Proposal, we can use the one in the wiki, after changing the featured image. If you mean the blog post, that will be more difficult, unless someone else helps with the formatting.

JLV

Jose Luis Vivero Pol Wed 1 Feb 2017 9:40AM

Dear @cecileblanchet
Regarding the Food Commons we have already:
(a) a short introductory text for the video (see below),
(b) an abridged version of the Food Commons policy paper to be posted in P2P Foundation Blog and
(c) the complete Policy Proposal (already formatted in Wiki Commons).

Please, @staccotroncoso correct me if I am wrong.
Additionally, I have provided pictures to illustrate those texts.

Cecile, all those materials have been submitted to you by email.

From my side, everything is ready...
Best regards
Jose Luis

Text for Website to present the Video

Food, a life enabler and a cultural cornerstone with multiple meanings, is governed as a mere commodity by the neoliberal food policies that prevail in Europe. These meanings so relevant to human are reduced to the one of tradeable good (see fig 1) and the value of food is mixed with reduced its price in the market. This video denounces that reductionist approach and presents an alternative narrative to revalue food as a commons (nothing but a social construct) and to recognise the benefits of existing commons-based food systems in Europe (rural-customary and urban-contemporary). This paradigm shift will open up a new set of food policies that will help Europe to transit to a fairer, healthier and more sustainable food system. For a detailed explanation of this approach, see here the policy document presented at the European Assembly of Commons (Brussels, 15-17 November 2016).

NOTE: to incorporate here the link to the full document on Food Commons (either in P2P Wikipedia or in the EAC website).

Plus the Figure of six dimensions.

CB

Cecile Blanchet Wed 1 Feb 2017 9:47AM

Thansk a lot @joseluisviveropol ! I'll have a look shortly but it's a bit hectic here now :) All the best

JLV

Jose Luis Vivero Pol Wed 1 Feb 2017 9:54AM

I guess so @cecileblanchet
Today we'll make our greatest efforts to disseminate the outputs of EAC in social media.
Have a nice day!
Jose Luis

IS

Ivor Stodolsky Mon 20 Feb 2017 2:04PM

Hello all,
Did this report on the ECA ever get published alongside the others?
http://www.finncult.be/commoning-perpetuum-mobile/?lang=en

@staccotroncoso

Thanks for getting it out there!

I and M

ST

Stacco Troncoso Tue 21 Feb 2017 10:39AM

Dear @ivorstodolsky yes, it was published some weeks ago.

IS

Ivor Stodolsky Tue 21 Feb 2017 1:53PM

Dear @staccotroncoso ,

Thank you!

Ivor