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CoTech to become an industry circle of workers.coop - towards a proposal

SWS Sion Whellens (Principle Six/Calverts) Public Seen by 109

There is a new, independent worker co-op federation and at the summer gathering the idea of joining forces and making CoTech the first industrial circle of workers.coop received a generally positive response. I now want to work towards a proposal to act on and formalise this.

There are both political and practical reasons why this should be a no brainer, although as always the devil's in the detail and it would also need the coordinating circle of workers.coop to agree and to work on it. Essentially CoTech would operate exactly as it does now, but I think the subs-paying members of CoTech would also need to join workers.coop as enterprise members (many of them have already joined, have agreed to join, or are considering joining). The CoTech circle could involve non-workers.coop members and non-CoTech subs paying co-ops as it does now and have autonomous decision-making and administration remit, sending a member to the worker.coop coordinating circle.

The advantages - apart from the main one - together we are stronger - are that we would be able to merge some admin and infrastructure functions; for instance workers.coop would be the contractor with CoTech's coordinator and could have its own financial ecscosystem, raise money if it wants as it does now for special projects, events, circle expenses (but potentially cross-subsidised from workers.coop general funds); we could merge our NextCloud instances but CoTech could keep its own wiki and other organising tools; and so on.

I know perhaps some CoTechers are not familiar with workers.coop, which is itself in startup mode, and I'm happy to respond to all clarifying questions and then reactions/critical concerns, with a view to writing a proposal for CoTech decision. Meanwhile I'm sharing this summary business plan doc. Here's how a primary worker co-op can join the federation. For transparency: I'm a mission circle (board), coordination circle and communications circle member of workers.coop :)

Would like to be in a position to formulate a proposal in the next couple of weeks, i.e. by Friday 10th Feb 2023.

SWS

Sion Whellens (Principle Six/Calverts) Fri 10 Feb 2023 12:42PM

I have written a draft proposal saved in a new CoTech (not workers.coop) Nextcloud folder 'Worker co-op federation' for contributors in this thread to critique/co-edit, or I could do it old style and email to you @Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) @Chris Lowis (Go Free Range) @Doug Belshaw @John Evans @Graham @John Atherton ?

JA

John Atherton Fri 10 Feb 2023 1:02PM

If you don’t have a Nextcloud account get one via our new SSO

CCC

Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) Fri 10 Feb 2023 5:29PM

Thanks for drafting this @Sion Whellens (Principle Six/Calverts) I've added a couple of small bits to the document and also one comment, @Doug Belshaw 's comments are good and I think his suggestion to have a meeting to discuss it sounds like a sensible next step.

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DB

Doug Belshaw Fri 10 Feb 2023 1:23PM

(removed previous message as I got confused between CoTech and workers.coop NextCloud instances...)

DB

Doug Belshaw Fri 10 Feb 2023 1:34PM

Have added comments to the doc, thanks @Sion Whellens (Principle Six/Calverts) ! (if there's no reason to keep it closed, could you make it accessible for everyone and comment-only?)

LMH

Liam MacLeod (MediaBlaze Hosts) Fri 10 Feb 2023 1:57PM

Hi @John Atherton The link you've posted needs to stay private and only issued to coops that sign up to the worker fed, otherwise it can be targeted by spammers, as this loomio forum is open to the public.

I've deactivated the original link and will send you the new one.

Thanks

DB

Doug Belshaw Fri 10 Feb 2023 2:00PM

@Liam MacLeod (MediaBlaze Hosts) you're going to hate the way that WAO does... most of our work then 😅 https://pads.weareopen.coop (haven't had a problem in seven years)

CCC

Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) Fri 10 Feb 2023 2:05PM

Etherpad has been specifically designed to be open, the SSO for things like the workers.coop Nextcloud instance has been setup for members of co-ops that join workers.coop not anyone in the world, the forum is open to all.

DB

Doug Belshaw Fri 10 Feb 2023 2:09PM

So no documents on the Nextcloud instance can ever be shared with non-members? That seems sub-optimal as a design decision, but OK!

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