Loomio
Thu 7 Sep 2017 6:40PM

Stephanie Mark's proposal for Female voters.

CLF Cari Lila Frances Public Seen by 273

Stephanie has never voted herself. Where is the integrity here? I see other solutions to achieve the results I believe she is desiring. She can actually be involved in the EN, participate/ and hold a Goddess Council, and represent a divine feminine vote holder voice for all to understand

ZL

Zandra Lotus Thu 7 Sep 2017 6:54PM

I agree with Lila, I am not sure why gender is an issue at all.

CLF

Cari Lila Frances Thu 7 Sep 2017 7:09PM

I agree Mike, though this is not the best answer, to have the male vote holders wait.

KBM

Keegan Blisstears Meade Fri 8 Sep 2017 12:08AM

Please share your solutions!

KBM

Keegan Blisstears Meade Fri 8 Sep 2017 12:09AM

They cant be dependent on Stephanie)

M

Michel (AHE) Fri 8 Sep 2017 5:03AM

hmmm aren't we all masculine and feminine together ...
if we want gender balance we can have it with our delegates at least the non voting persons don't introduce an inbalance, and the voting ones can then channel both energies !

BH

Billy (Choying) Huynh Fri 8 Sep 2017 3:35PM

I don't think it is able genders. It should be all coming from the heart.

CLF

Cari Lila Frances Sat 9 Sep 2017 12:28AM

How many vote holders are male to female? It's about 5:1
This - - feels imbalanced, even if considering spectrum masculine - feminine individual tendencies, wounding, wisdoms, beliefs, culture, etc.

We currently let new voteholders in at a rate of 10% at a week (created to grow and maintain a healthy culture and informed voting population based on what we are currently able to onboard)
And yes we are working on many systems with you to educate our members with more ease and efficiency.
Based on the current loomio proposal, It could take about a month for a new "man body" member to get a vote holder seat. (not very fun)

I believe this topic is an important remembrance as we maintain balance and harmony in our EN and grow our culture, our trainings, our voting habits, etc. I am happy it is being felt into right now. I do believe both the wisdom of the divine feminine and divine masculine aspects shall be represented, though I see a more new paradigm solution.

First? If we truly felt females are underepresented, what would we do? Do we feel this to be true?
Has our culture created a systemic issue of imbalanced male body to female body representation?

Do we feel the voting has been unfair thus far, where the men's ideals have out voted the woman's? If it has not been an issue, will it be?

I am grateful that I see many beautiful females stepping into leadership and action with us, will have many more. Who is impassioned to bring in divine feminine vote holders? and do they all have to be female in body? Is this a higher solution?

We are in awareness of this now - and I thank Stephanie Mark for bringing this to the table, and I also asked her to discus this - or hold feminine council for the EN to hold space for this offering - and learn where she has seen the issue or potential downfalls by her perspective.
Thus, unfilled at this time, I cannot agree with this proposal.

I propose we meet the present moment with an idea closer though still not my optimum - as we transcend paradigms, and maybe it spawns another solution.

What if we allow 2 females/female identified/neutral to 1 male towards 50% balance and then leave it to the collective wisdom of spirit and those vote holders to maintain both masculine and feminine knowledge and wisdom from that period on. I see ways we all can support balance, and this is revealed as we bring forth this awareness and wisdom in all that we do and be.

CLF

Poll Created Mon 11 Sep 2017 9:29PM

Balanced voting proposal, response to Stephanie Mark's proposal Closed Sun 17 Sep 2017 9:16PM

THE PROPOSAL: a more moderate solution:
Allow 2 females/female identified/neutral beings
to 1 male/male identified vote holder in - towards 50% balance.

Reasoning:
Although I do not see a problem with our current voting in relation to male/female,
I believe this topic is very important as we maintain balance and harmony in the EN and grow our culture, our trainings, our voting habits, etc. I am happy it is being felt into right now. I agree both the wisdom of the divine feminine and divine masculine aspects shall be represented.

How many vote holders are male to female? It's about 5:1

This still - - feels imbalanced, even if considering spectrum masculine - feminine individual tendencies, wounding, wisdoms, beliefs, culture, etc.

We currently let new voteholders in at a rate of 10% a week (created to grow and maintain a healthy culture and informed voting population based on what we are currently able to onboard).

Based on the current loomio proposal that did not pass by Stephanie, It could take about a month for a new "man body" member to get a vote holder seat, if all females get in first.(not very fun)

Why take this to a vote again? if Stephanie's was blocked? It was worth me asking these questions.

  1. If we truly felt females are underepresented, what would we do? Do we feel this to be true?
  2. Has our culture created a systemic issue of imbalanced male body to female body representation?
  3. Do we feel the voting has been unfair thus far, where the men's ideals have out voted the woman's? If it has not been an issue, will it be?

I am grateful that I see many beautiful females and divine feminine energies stepping into leadership and action with us, and we will have many more. Who is impassioned to bring in divine feminine vote holders? and do they all have to be female in body? Is this a higher solution?

All this said, here is another attempt towards balance - meeting us where we are at in this moment of 5:1 and moving towards non-gender exclusion/inclusion in our new paradigm as we transition paradigms.

THE PROPOSAL:
Allow 2 females/female identified/neutral
to 1 male vote holders in towards 50% balance.

Once 50% balance is achieved, leave it to the collective wisdom of spirit and our current vote holders to maintain both masculine and feminine knowledge and wisdom from that period on. I see ways we all can support balance, and this will be further revealed as we bring forth this awareness and wisdom in all that we do and be.

We can reassess this in the future if need be. Always evolving! <3 TY for considering this more moderate solution.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 50.0% 8 DK CLF TE M PFS TER SL P
Abstain 37.5% 6 VR CL DM AS A C
Disagree 12.5% 2 ZL DC
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 3 CB DK N

16 of 19 people have participated (84%)

TER

Tuva Er Rai Melik
Agree
Mon 11 Sep 2017 9:59PM

yes. balance is good.

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