That is where your 15 a day would be of help compared to 7 a day you would need only half the people fishing to feed said community meaning more hands left to do other jobs :) that is why we would like an increase in recreational quota.

Doesn't work that way. Increase it to 15 per day and many would increase their take to 15 per day - to sell. Maybe what we really need is 35 per week. That's going to be a little difficult to enforce though.

And it still comes down to how many can be taken sustainably.

A person feeding a community is a community good and this should be counted before quota is set

I have no interest in "recreational quota" I do not fish for "recreation". But people do fish for their community, and I do when hungry! this amount is not unsustainable and should be counted first .

A person feeding a community is a community good and this should be counted before quota is set

You can't do that. All that is taken needs to be set against the sustainable limit.

But people do fish for their community, and I do when hungry! this amount is not unsustainable

Actually, we don't know although I'm sure that the government has the figures available and it is on those figures that they reduced the private take. In other words, it probably isn't sustainable.

On point that was obvious to me was that the government, by reducing only the private take, was acting to protect the commercial take.

One point that was obvious to me was that the government, by reducing only the private take, was acting to protect the commercial take.
So you are saying that the Government is for the profit of commercial enterprise.
Stuff the people, So how are we to fix this???

fred look
I have no interest in “recreational quota” I do not fish for “recreation”. But people do fish for their community, and I do when hungry! this amount is not unsustainable and should be counted first .

I know what you are talking about Fred. "Recreational" is just the word the government use to describe any fishing of a non-commercial nature.

Draco T Bastard
Doesn’t work that way. Increase it to 15 per day and many would increase their take to 15 per day - to sell. Maybe what we really need is 35 per week. That’s going to be a little difficult to enforce though.
And it still comes down to how many can be taken sustainably.

In no way shape or form do I encourage the home/community fisherman to on sell their catch. Most community minded fishermen know their fishing area better then the govt would. They would only catch to their community need.

Most community minded fishermen know their fishing area better then the govt would.

Most fishermen haven't got a clue as to what fish are in the sea and what can be sustainably taken. This whole thread started because of that ignorance.

They would only catch to their community need.

Which is probably too much. That's what you don't seem to understand. There is a limit to how many fish can be taken from the sea sustainably and at the moment it appears that we're taking too many and a large part of that take would be the 'recreational' fishers.

So you are saying that the Government is for the profit of commercial enterprise.
Stuff the people, So how are we to fix this???

It's a National government so of course they're legislating in favour of commercial interests. We live in a market economy so it's a little difficult to fix but to start to have a reasonable discussion about it we need the answers to the five questions I ask above at a bare minimum.