Discussion: Buckets in deficit/in the red

I think I tend to agree with Kerry with the caveat that if they leave Jeder with their bucket in the red it has to be paid back.

We dont have clarity on this discussion as yet. We don't want to discourage people from attending AoH as it is a requirement of membership. This one feels OK to me, and we still need to have some more input into the conversation around keeping your bucket green for everyone.

Okay I have been avoiding this conversation as I am some one who has been in the red due to circumstances as mentioned by Kerry (waiting on payments and other circumstances over the past 12 months). I believe no one wants to be in this circumstance and it does create high anxiety for people and as a Collective we need to be aware of how many people are privy to this information (a person in the red) - even though we are striving for transparency we also need to respect peoples confidentiality and wishes as to who is involved (I am aware that the Board, Finance and some Coaches (Cos choice) know where people's buckets are, but who else? as this is discussed at induction)
I can only speak from the Cos space and I am aware as Coaches we do have in depth conversations about buckets, wages etc at commencement, we have also introduced weekly processing of claims to assist with keeping peoples buckets topped up.
A recent conversation also flagged for me that people may not be aware of exact amounts of Super and Tax that they pay. (This comment may need to go else where).
In regards to a person leaving Jeder if their bucket is in the red, yes I agree that they need to pay it back.

Agree with Rachel - support is crucial (.e.g Kerry has developed a table to show how much needs to be covered for tax, super, LSL etc). There needs to be some form of confidential process for resolving bucket situations with current members, and also perhaps something in an employment contract / enterprise agreement that makes it clear that someone that leaves Jeder needs to pay back any amount owing, back to the admin bucket.

Yes, totally agree we need to support anyone sensitively should their bucket go into the red, and this is what we have discussed in the Jedi around buckets going into the red. I was of the belief that we now don't have anyone going into the red? Is this not the case?
In terms of the enterprise agreement, there has been some previous discussion about this (I think from the last Hunter Gathering or the one in Collaroy- I think @yvonne7 and @cecilyspradbrow opened the conversation (but I will need to go back and look at the harvest again to make sure).

I believe that there needs to be clearer @ terms of Engagement @ / Contracts first , before we can look at / consider an Enterprise Agreement...we need to link the Terms / Contract to an award first...

@jasonemmins - I think the issue is currently one of needing a clear policy that applies to everyone equally, not that there is any issue currently driving this conversation. Does anyone feel this topic is ripe for a proposal about some wording on this topic for the $Handbook?

I should have a draft ready for the zoom in the 25th

@Michelle Dunscombe - could you please find the above mentioned draft about overdrawn accounts so we can finalise this issue? TCOB have given us some great information and it would be good to revisit where we are up to instead of starting again!

This is the application for class overdraw https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JIws3BcTKF0PpvYtvtTZxpU2uC73zz-VhPcRrCY5MIA/edit?usp=sharing