~ ☮Current Actions ~ from sea to shining sea.

Nice Web site—great look.

The Peace Pole action which started with the Gathering is still going on and we'll try to make a formal presentation to the State Government on August 27.

Event scheduled ~ The Wagon for Peace.
Weare, NH Saturday, August 23, 2014 at 9:00 am

http://nhpeaceaction.org/calendar/upcoming-event/?event=102

Weare was a station on the Underground Railroad, among other things, routinely violating laws in the name of social progress. ☮

Campaign Non-violence
http://nhpeaceaction.org/calendar/upcoming-event/?event=101

• CAMPAIGN NONVIOLENCE * Beginning with Art For Peace on September 21, members of the NH peace, Occupy NH, and justice community will engage in a week of action to end war, poverty, and the climate crisis, there will be walks from places of institutional violence to places of peace all over the state, the Art For Peace art festival, vigils, congressional lobbying, free hugs, and educational programming.

Thanks for these posts, Dennis.

From the East coast to the West coast,
From sea to shining sea,
We're in this together!!
http://occupynewhampshire.org/
Our ideas spread.

Art For Peace!
http://nhpeaceaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Art-for-peace.pdf

War, poverty, and climate crisis plague
our communities on a local and global scale. Though these seem like separate issues on the surface, at their core they are all connected as they bring destruction rather than creation to a community.

August 23rd, 2014 - 11:00 AM
We Will Not Go Back March
Staten Island
Bay St. & Victory Blvd.
Staten Island, NY

Details: http://nationalactionnetwork.net/wewillnotgoback/

One thing war, poverty and climate change (and every other issues activists fight for) have in common is that we can do little about any of them as long as our country is controlled by money and power. Our laws are made and administered by politicians who can't keep their jobs unless they serve the wishes of those (1% and corporations) who pay for their campaigns. We need to get money out of politics and fund campaigns with public money. We need an amendment to the Constitution to put an end to the lie that corporations are people and money is speech. Move to Amend, MayDay. org and Stamp Stampede are a few of many organizations that are working toward this end. The Occupies would do well to consider working with them.

I usually carry my Stampede Stamp with me to various actions to see who would like to borrow and make use of it,...
http://www.stampstampede.org/
$top MoneyPolitic$
http://takebacktheamericandream.org/
☮

@carolyndixon David Cobb of Move to Amend was instrumental in planning the Saturday of the Kalamazoo gathering last summer; at the final GA we agreed to endorse their campaign (as always, that simply meant that those present had agreed; we are not a representative movement—although I am sure that folks went back to their home Occupys armed with information and a report on that endorsement, it did not require any specific action of any specific Occupy). I do remember someone at S17 (I think it was) doing presentations on MOP, Money Out of Politics in N.Y. Certainly the influence of money on our political system is agreed by almost all, if not all, Occupyers to be a damaging influence (some Occupyers figure that the system is inherently flawed, and money out is not enough).

@dennis, @sallyg Thanks for the info about other groups working to get $ out of politics- may not be enough, working within the system, but I don't know what else to do. I don't know what working outside the system would look like.

I do think we can accomplish a fair amount working within the system; there are a few good guys like Dennis Kucinich (gerrymandered out) and Alan Grayson (congressmanwithguts.com; Florida), and we can support them and push the rest; however, some more radical/anarchist types want revolution. For now, I am content to push folks to pay attention, get active, and force politicians and corporations to be accountable—that is more than enough to do! (If not, we can work on ending war, hunger, etc.) A model of working outside the system may be the Zapatistas. I just caught up on a lot of their history at Wikipedia (http://tinyurl.com/pkc7kj3 ; sadly, I was too busy at NatGat to attend their workshop).

If the Zapatistas are an example, then there are many others: the encampment at Zuccotti Park, community gardens, building tiny houses for the homeless, Occupy Sandy, perhaps worker-owned businesses. What else can anyone suggest?

Agreed, the question is how to bring them to scale so that the larger system is forced to change, or at least become the ignored minority.

EARTH S☮LIDARY VIGIL: PEACE ☮N THE BEACH
Saturday, September 27, 2014 (12:00 pm – Sunset)
http://paceebene.org/event/cnv-action-hampton-nh/
Come join us!! ☮

Going to the People's Climate March? Stay Beyond the March
Sept. 22 #floodwallstreet
massive DA, CD in blue:

#FloodWallStreet
On Monday, September 22nd at 9am, thousands of people will gather at Battery Park in Lower Manhattan to confront the root cause of the climate crisis - an economic system based on exploiting frontline communities, workers, and natural resources. On the heels of the largest-ever march on climate change, we have an opportunity to transform our energy systems and our economic systems, and in fact - they cannot be separated.

Wearing blue to represent the sea that surrounds us, we rise to the steps of the NY Stock Exchange at 12 pm, flooding the area with our bodies in a massive sit-in - a collective act of nonviolent civil disobedience to confront the system that both causes, and profits from the crisis that is threatening humanity.

Full call to action and information: http://floodwallstreet.net
9 AM - Gather @ Battery Park - Breakfast and Music from Rude Mechanical Orchestra
9:30 AM - Speakers - including frontline community leaders of the Climate Justice Alliance, Global Ambassadors from 350.org, Rebecca Solnit and Chris Hedges
11 AM -- Nonviolent Direct Action Training & March
12 PM -- Flood Wall St. and Mass Sit-In

Sign up for updates and more information:
http://www.beyondthemarch.org/floodwallstreet

Join the Facebook event:
https://www.facebook.com/events/832215646797522/

Share these graphics and images:
http://floodwallstreet.tumblr.com
http://instagram.com/floodwallstreet

don't seem to be able to add images.

#S17 #OccupyCityHall @OccupyLosAngeles 10am City Council Chambers #GlobalPoliceStateStanddown #ConstitutionDay what are you doing for #S17?

Sadly, working for at least part of it. Hoping to get to Liberty Plaza, formerly Zuccotti. Meetings at my UU society.

Wednesday, November 5, 2014:
Imagine people around the world, hugging all at the same moment!
The nurturing touch of a hug builds trust and a sense of safety. This helps with open and honest communication.

https://www.facebook.com/events/521507667980025/

In Conjunction with:
Million Mask Marches world wide https://www.facebook.com/events/505027169551591/
www.millionmaskmovement.com
Project Love https://www.facebook.com/groups/114766715273926/
http://1lovetogether.blogspot.com/
Project Unity https://www.facebook.com/groups/anonprojectunity/
Op Human Angels
http://vimeo.com/68354696
https://www.facebook.com/OpHumanAngels
#FreeHugs #grouphug #MMM2014 #OpUnity #paradigmshift #OneLove

Wednesday, November 5, 2014:
Imagine people around the world, hugging all at the same moment!
The nurturing touch of a hug builds trust and a sense of safety. This helps with open and honest communication.

https://www.facebook.com/events/521507667980025/

In Conjunction with:
Million Mask Marches world wide https://www.facebook.com/events/505027169551591/
www.millionmaskmovement.com
Project Love https://www.facebook.com/groups/114766715273926/
http://1lovetogether.blogspot.com/
Project Unity https://www.facebook.com/groups/anonprojectunity/
Op Human Angels
http://vimeo.com/68354696
https://www.facebook.com/OpHumanAngels
#FreeHugs #grouphug #MMM2014 #OpUnity #paradigmshift #OneLove

Anything new for 2015?

I think everyone is watching Baltimore right now. I have been working to set up a meeting with residents of most-affected Sandy areas in Bergen County with NJ Future and Rebuild by Design, with the intent of ensuring that the NJ Dep’t. of Environmental Protection plan takes needs of current residents and those outside the immediate area into account, NOT just desires of developers for gentrification.
No plans for a national event, at least nothing of which I am aware.

I’m in support of all these actions. Even “Deep Throat” told Woodward & Bernstein to ‘follow the money.’ The NHRebellion is making strides for campaign finance reform for these reasons. Hopefully, it will evolve to be nationwide movement. http://www.nhrebellion.org/ ☮
http://www.stampstampede.org/pages/nh

Keep in mind, it’s the money and various grant programs which finance police malfeasance, too. It can be a dangerous journey to expose these abuses, and only a few have the courage to answer that call and take those risks. It’s not an easy path to follow,...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police-practices/police-corruption

☮ July 4th 2015 https://walk.nhrebellion.org/ #GetMoneyOut #NHRebellion

Please note that there is NO obligation to contribute anything in order to participate!! Your ardent support to #GetMoneyOut of politics in spirit and soul is greatly appreciated!!

You may be able to watch the NHRebellion walk pass by these two destinations points on via live web cam along the Seacoast Walk Route as their march continues by "The Wall" on July 4th here:
http://cinnamonrainbows.com/surf-cam-report

And also here:
http://www.surfline.com/surf-report/hampton-new-england_5131/
...depending upon the camera angle, compliments of every committed hardcore surfer still riding that #WaveOfAction
http://www.riverasun.com/riding-the-wave-of-action/

It's a beautiful walk along the beach with a magnificent view of the ocean,...
http://hamptonbeach.org/webcam.cfm

I'm so grateful by everyone's work in the streets right now!

C'mon People, "Find Your Adventure"!
That's the theme for the Rose Parade this year. ;)

All i'm saying is ... COME AND JOIN US! IT'S A NATIONAL INVITATION TO COME OCCUPY WALL STREET WEST. We're going to be there anyway, so the invitation stands. We have hundreds there every year, probably more than were at the whole National Gathering last year ... AND ... Southern California has such nice weather this time of year, even if we are going to have the worst El Nino this year, apparently. ;(

Also, it's my birthday on New Year's Eve, and i'm planning a little party later in the week ... oh, wait ... did i say "party"? i meant ... "occupation." Yes, i really think everyone should be here for this. We are creating something amazing here and i think you'll like it. FYI ... people here have been planning for a long time, so there's no need to fret about details if you're coming. Like i said ... come early, stay late ... visit the West Coast Occupy groups that are still so active ... we're going to be here anyway ... so we are just inviting EVERYONE. HOPE YOU CAN COME. LOVE YOU! <3

http://www.tournamentofroses.com/news/2016-rose-parade-theme-find-your-adventure

NOTES on ACCOMMODATIONS:

In Los Angeles we can sleep in cars on the street, so that is one option, and we also have events in Solidarity with Skid Row, so we can sleep with the homeless there, too. Someone has suggested some parks, but we did fine last year and we will do fine this year, because we are Occupiers and that's what we do ... we figure out a way to make it happen. ;)

By the way, "Find Your Adventure" seems to me like a theme perhaps chosen because it doesn't lend itself to being "Occupied" ... like "Dreams Come True" turned into "Dreams Come True if you WAKE UP" by Occupy the Rose Parade. One year the theme was "IMAGINE" .. so my sign said "IMAGINE ... living life in Peace" ... and it was WAY too "Occupy"-friendly.

"Find Your Adventure" could be "FUND Your Adventure," for instance, whereby we can bring light to how the 1% have financed corruption globally.

"OUR ADVENTURE IS OCCUPYing WALL STREET" could be another.

There are possibilities. i am usually my own "float." See photo from one year, via Popular Resistance:

"just imagine ... "

WE ALREADY HAVE MORE OCCUPIERS COMING TO THIS THAN THE LAST NATIONAL GATHERING. It just makes sense to make THIS EVENT the National Gathering. It will get National attention, and that is exactly what we need to do to combat the “Occupy is Dead” narrative perpetuated by our non-allies,

AND i just found this picture for the first time! i lost this sign that day, and was so bummed. Now i have it back … it’s a “sign”! hahaha

https://www.google.com/search?q=popular+resistance,+occupy+the+rose+parade&rlz=1C1KMZB_enUS588US588&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjPk9eIy7rJAhXVWogKHVmoB7QQ_AUICSgD&biw=1366&bih=656&dpr=0.9#tbm=isch&q=occupy+the+rose+parade&imgrc=_

"Don't FUND Your Adventure With a Bank" is another idea we can use to continue the "Bank Transfer Day" idea from the November 5 2011 Action that is showed just how powerful Occupy Wall Street actually was ... 600,000 people moved their money from banks into Credit Unions on that day, and the 1% realized the power of The People. Then they started crushing us ... Zuccotti was overrun on November 15, only 10 days later. We HAD it ... then many people got scared. Well we are still Occupying Wall Street here, and if the "founders" themselves are not, it only shows that they had NO IDEA what they had created, had no vision for where it could go in the future, and certainly did not possess the ability to hunker down for the long run. It is my opinion that many of the so-called "i started Occupy Wall Street" people who are now claiming "Occupy is dead" never really understood what they were doing, or more nefariously, KNEW what they were doing. i don't follow those narcissistic book-writing self-aggrandizing media whores. i came to Occupy Wall Street, and the way we conquer the banks is to never give up. Occupy Wall Street is an IDEA, and as such, can never "die." So any claims as such are obvious attempts to minimize our efforts and write off the influence of this movement, which has literally created a Paradigm Shift in thinking on a global scale. Don't let anyone tell you that this is over, or that we are not making a difference. i was in Zuccotti for S17 and they haven't given up.

i am not "feeling the Bern" for any candidate, because i do not believe we are actually voting. That being said, we had a HUGE discussion at S17 this year regarding the endorsement of candidates by a group (OWS) that has a statement of political autonomy. Most OWS activists that day were vehemently against this new "development" in our movement. This is divisive, and we did not come to Occupy the White House. We are Occupying the financial crimes of the Wall Street Banks and Corporations. The only intersection between what we are Occupying and politics is "Money in Politics," which i can see is involved in the Bernie discussion, but this is missing the forest for the trees, in my opinion, the only option for our continued attempt by The People to regain control of "our" government is to stop voting for party politicians, and to find a way to elect PEOPLE, not politicians and lawyers, to represent The People. We can do this in many ways, one of which i presented at S17 this year, and will be presenting at this years National Gathering 2015 at some point.. It is a project i am working on with several Hollywood filmmakers, tv people, and is an option for getting us back on track for electing representatives that are actually "Of the People, By the People, and For the people. This proposal is currently being evaluated by the techie people for viability. More later ...

Justin, what do you mean by "Not enough Local OWS Buy in"?

Don't you think individuals can rally around a common theme in a MONTH and get themselves where they need to be? When Ferguson rose up, we were all in the streets immediately. When Baltimore rose up, we were already ready, and massive Solidarity actions happened within HOURS. What there is NOT enough time to do is SABOTAGE on a large scale, which is why our preferred method of Action now is "last minute," pop-up Actions that cannot be derailed or co-opted. As we know from last year's event, most of what we tried to plan was impossible to enact because of the severe disruption of the controlling hierarchy, who continuously tried to keep us from being effective. Many things i worked on for 11 months did not come to fruition because there was too much time to sabotage these things and that is what happened:

• i spent 3 days preparing a two-lane banner for the march after much discussion during 11 months on the conference calls. When i arrived in Sacramento, "all of a sudden" we are informed by the local group that we cannot take two lanes in the street ... so the banner could not be used.

• An attempt to showcase "Occupy - the Musical" was derailed at every opportunity, and in spite of statements that there was already a group working on this task, OTHER people were suggested who "already wrote something like that ... you should collaborate" and there was no space made for this. It didn't seem to register that the "Musical" was already created and pretty much ready to go ... it was just being infiltrated by those who wanted to ruin it, most likely. Regardless, it was most likely too ambitious.

• When i came prepared to organize "Occupy Guitarmy West," a musical action that accompanies the marches or acts as a musical performance group, it was obvious that there was a least one infiltrator assigned to "ruin" this action. This person lied to me repeatedly, subjected me to continual verbal abuse during a Road Trip to do outreach for last year's event. His behavior became so extreme that i literally had to get him out of my vehicle to stop what was then a 12-hour long stretch of crazy, psychotic babble that seemed to be straight out of the Cointelpro handbook on "How to Fuck With Protesters' Minds." Hours after abandoning this individual, i was harassed by helicopters hovering immediately above my tiny Smart Car on the way back down the California coast from San Francisco, and the helicopters continued to "stake me out" along the way down. i have this ON FILM. The person whose Cointelpro-trained ass that i left in Santa Cruz was former military, and i have NO idea how it even came about that he "decided" he was coming with me for outreach down the coast. When he showed up at the National Gathering with a guitar, which he was playing constantly probably because he hadn't for a while and needed to either "learn how to play it better," or "practice," i assumed he was there to be part of the "Occupy Guitarmy West action." Since i knew he was only there to sabotage it, i never engaged others in this action. i am not about to give saboteurs the outcomes they desire. This person showed up to the Gathering and then started on a rhetoric of "Donna is Crazy," which is EXACTLY what another person did to me during the last week leading up to the event, even though i had dropped everything to help that second person, and in the middle of a conference call, because the person was coming across the country and was having troubles and need immediate help. i then continued to be a connection for that person, until they flipped one day and started calling me "Crazy" for no reason, and telling me i needed psychological help. So it's clear that my adversaries are going for that line of attack in dealing with me, and it seems like that would be easy ... i am eccentric, creative, unpredictable, and truly FREE. But i do not want to give you the impression that i am, as one Sacramento "Occupier" claimed of me in an organizing thread "Overly impressed by" my "own abilites" (her was the original word.) Gee, thanks, bitch. And no ... i don't have an EGO, i have no pride, i have a VOICE, and it's LOUD, and i'm not shutting up.

• The biggest sabotage was when the Hierarchy that took control of the running of the event did not make space to read "The Principles of Solidarity," and "The Declaration of the Occupation of New York City," our two FOUNDING DOCUMENTS, and the reading of which was to set the tone for our gathering and to bring our common work back into the roots of Occupy Wall Street. We had all agreed at some point during the conference calls that this should be done at the "Opening Ceremony" for the event. When this did not happen on Day One, or Day Two, or Day Three, and when all the General Assemblies became shit storms - especially the one where "the Patriarch Who Must Not Be Named" sent in his buddy to fuck up the moderation and NEVER call on my raised hand - it became pretty obvious that our Founding Documents were too powerful to be read to UNITE us at the start of the gathering, and in a rash move that even now is unbelievable to me, i felt compelled to commandeer the last GA on Sunday, when i saw that the "Hierarchy" was set to take control of even the last day, thinking only of themselves, and what "THEY" had planned, secretly, away from the main Organizing group, on conference calls and emails that were not shared with the whole group. THAT WAS NOT TRANSPARENCY. THAT WAS NOT LEADERLESS. AND THAT WAS NOT NON-HIERARCHICAL. i was shaking when i stood with the Occupy flag and just started reading the Principles ... loudly, and never-stopping for the stream of people trying to stop me. When it became apparent that i would not stop my LOUD recitation of the Principles, ON THE LAST DAY OF THE EVENT, many true Occupiers came up front to stand in Solidarity with what i was doing ... what i had to insist upon doing because of sabotage ... and we took turns reading our founding documents of OWS. Please Note: i do not like the GA because it IS obviously constructed in a manner that lends itself to easy manipulation by obstructionist non-Activists, such as "the Patriarch Who Must Not Be Named." During the time i was beginning this reading, i remember my voice was loud ... my heart beating fast. One lady yelled: "Why are you so hostile?!" because i literally had to commandeer the GA .... JUST SO THE FOUNDING DOCUMENTS COULD BE SHARED FOR OUR ALIGNMENT. In a million years, if someone had told me i would ever do this, i would never have believed it. i hate the GA. i saw the weakness of the consensus process, and more so, its ability to be controlled and manipulated, which it WAS. To this day, Matt Ready has never answered my email asking him to provide transparency regarding the many conversations he was seen having with "The Patriarch Who Must Not Be Named," since he was obviously "sent in" in lieu of the misogynist Patriarch who got off on attempting to "control" everything about our event.

• The saddest part for me was the lack of support by the organizing group when it was obvious that i was the target of a misogynist Patriarch who was just trying to fuck with me. His abuse caused me to gain 20 pounds, and for the months and months on the calls, there were many people who tried to address this but for the most part, the ONE thing that should have happened never did: WHY DID WE HAVE A SELF-PROCLAIMED NON-ACTIVIST AT THE HELM OF THE PLANNING OF AN OCCUPY NATIONAL GATHERING? DID NO ONE NOTICE HE WAS JUST ON A HUGE POWER TRIP, ABUSING THOSE WHO DID NOT ALLOW HIM TO TAKE THEIR POWER? He worked several women to the bone ... i wonder if they even realize they were being abused. It is so sad to me ... how people cannot see this obvious behavior. Abusive men should never be allowed at the helm of anything ... "I surround myself with powerful women!" he claimed once on a call. This is classic ... and what did he DO to those women. They were exhausted, and overworked, probably doing a lot of busy work to keep them from wanting to every go through the process again. It was SICK. i will always remember those who saw what was happening and attempted to address it, most did NOT, and who actually took the side of a psychological abuser. i will never forget how much i suffered during that planning process, as plan after plan was sabotaged, and we had to sit back and listen to a control freak steering our conversations and moods any way he wanted it to go for his own amusement. If any of you think i am exaggerating, recall that there are 2 scholars i know working on these topics. It could be years before their reports are published, i am told, because Academia is it's own nightmare right now.

There are many more examples of the sabotage that occurred in all those months, and the social and psychological processes that were involved, some of these topics are becoming papers in major journals, and although the names will be changed, you will be able to see what trained professionals have analyzed about the sabotage we are experiencing. My only wish is that they would hurry up because we all could be very enlightened about this from an outside, professional perspective. The one comment i have heard from those studying this National Gathering process is that they don't know how we can get anything done with so much obstruction going on. Since most everyone i know is underground now ... i just laughed ... because this is UNSTOPPABLE. Whatever we do, we are moving energy and creating energy where it is needed.

i love you all. Even the haters. You teach us how NOT to be. ONE LOVE <3

I'm curious for a "block" and how real that is. Justin, are you ready to walk away from occupy because of organizational logistics for ... Occupy? Really? Wow. There is plenty of on the ground people, OWS, Occupy Venice Beach, Occupy LA most likely, committed to doing the Rose Parade, Bernie Sanders or not, this is just an enlargement of that planned event is how I see it. I say we support Donna enlarging it to make sure OWS message is heard through all the Bernie noise.

The block is quite real & based on the facts at hand:

A proposal from a single person to have Nat Gat happen in less than three months in a state who has hosted the event before.

I fully support Donna (she’s one of the fav organizers + people) but I can’t support things that do not align with our community values and established practices.

A group in #OWS once had to have at least active 5 members, 3 of which who were willing to be frontliners be be identified in a transparent way through meeting minutes.

If the proposal was made by any of the groups you mentioned and had been arrived at through consensus decision making processes then I would fully support.

From what you & Donna have detailed it would be more appropriate to be asking for a solidarity statement from Nat Gat Organizers.

(Her dark responses confusing disagreement with hating, infiltrators & sabotage suggests to me she needs more support from local groups instead of being the only person putting herself out there for the movement)

The Rose Parade is less than 3 months away & it wouldn’t be fair to the wider community if a small group of stakeholders tried to make it into Nat Gat.

People need to time to organize & fund-raise to participate.

At this point there isn't much outreach going on regarding Rose Parade actions, maybe we can focus on helping with that by creating a solidarity statement which will help enlarge the event without abusing what little movement/ social capital Nat Gat as a brand has left.

Let's not forget we were unable to get things together for Nat Gat 2015.

New York City was slated to host the 5th anniversary on #S17 back in the day... Maybe we can look at that idea again?

I hear you and agree with you, yet why are you blocking Donna's idea? As if Occupy Venice Beach doesn't really need national help right now, seriously! (Can we get anymore women hatred going?) I think it would be good for us to support Donna's idea as best we can and see what comes together for the Rose Parade. I hope you change your block to an abstain and allow the grass roots to grow.

I was pretty clear above. I'm blocking the idea, not Donna.

It's an idea from one person to mobilize a Nat Gat in a state who already hosted it.

Please stop over personalizing people's statements and take take a look at your projection about 'women hated'.

Small reminder this group's work isn't about amplifying a single organizer's work but to create a safe space for the movement as a whole to gather.

I hope you can tell the difference between disagreement & misogyny and that you abstain from feeding her extreme yet justified paranoia.

Getting targeted is a real thing in the movement. Just ask me about the stop & frisk targeting going on with #PeoplesMonday sometime..

Again, I block the idea, not Donna.

I adore her.

No, you don't know about Occupy Venice Beach and their recent issue with the house, the police, the locking out and drama, then? Making women and newborn homeless? Ok, it's personal because there is an innocent child, and yes, that makes it personal to me. A lot of healing needs to be done there, and OVB really needs some help to continue to being Occupy.

You may adore Donna, yet you do not respect her equally. If you did, you would support her idea, even if it's not the best one, because she's clearly done a lot of work on it. That's what occupiers do for one another ... empowerment. That's one of our principles of solidarity. Even the worst idea may be supported because we just love the person. Supporting her idea hurts nor harms anyone, especially not Occupy.

PS, does it really matter where we have a NatGat or does it matter we have one?

So exactly 15 hours ago, when i posted this proposal, this person posted on FB:

Vadim Stepanov
15 hrs ·
Is this a LRAD Sound Cannon pointed right at Occupy LA protesters? I took this photo at Pasadena City Hall-Rose Parade

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004923191157

YEAH, after 4 years, FEAR doesn't really work on us anymore. hahaha ... the games have begun. Can someone please hack that account and find out who that is? Thanks! :)

Your last comments speak volumes.

Yes it does matter. It was the whole idea that gave rise to Nat Gat.

Please stop trying to pit people vs one another & maybe go re-read our founding documents.

I helped create them & blindly supporting someone just because they have breasts wasn’t something that was addressed by #OWS.

Nice try tho.

Don’t be that guy or girl. Quit trolling & stick to the ideas.

So anyone into creating a solidarity statement we as a community can support?