CoTech structure
A place to store gather some thoughts about how CoTech should be structured in the run up to the 2017 Retreat
Harry "Outlandish" RobbinsThu 23 Nov 2017 3:39PM
I generally prefer consent, but I think this group is too loose at the moment and the risk of everything getting blocked is too high. I think it voting should be based on the number of people whose livelihoods depend on the decision.
Thomas Parisot (dtc innovation)Fri 24 Nov 2017 7:02AM
Consent could also be written as "all co-op have to agree" — the usual voting mechanism in sociocracy. In spite of being possibly a longer process, this mechanism implies clarity and good arguments which is is a sane default.
Tim DaviesFri 24 Nov 2017 9:30AM
I think it might need a few procedures, such as co-op veto, but such that veto can be overruled by an absolute majority (e.g. 50% of co-op members) - and over-ruled members have option of exist before decision imposed.
Chris Lowis (Go Free Range)Fri 24 Nov 2017 12:07PM
I'm inclined towards consent-based, but we need to decide which issues require voting on. I'd prefer it if most things could be done on an advice basis.
HamishTue 28 Nov 2017 11:02AM
In my experience neither consent nor majority work. Accepting consent is ideal, but can also block progress, I have added another option. This allows discussion between vote cycles in order to reach consent.
HamishTue 28 Nov 2017 11:03AM
In my experience neither consent nor majority work. Accepting consent is ideal, but can also block progress, I have added another option. This allows discussion between vote cycles in order to reach consent.
Chris Lowis (Go Free Range)Fri 24 Nov 2017 12:10PM
As these are polls, I'm sharing my own opinion not necessarily that of Go Free Range :-)
Harry "Outlandish" RobbinsFri 24 Nov 2017 4:29PM
Yes indeed @chrislowis - it's just to gather opinions.
Doug BelshawSun 26 Nov 2017 7:11AM
Thanks for this @harryrobbins - just to make the point that, at present, we're actually all in here as individuals. I think we also need a defined representative from each co-op.
GrahamMon 27 Nov 2017 11:10AM
The "structure" that has emerged over the last year, and which has been previously discussed, is a two-tier approach with a large and loose network of interested/supportive/aligned individuals and organisations coalescing around an inner group of people and orgs that have a more focused interest in what's happening and are moving the thing forward. I think this model has served well and should be maintained and encouraged.
Any more formal entity that might come out of discussions should be driven by decisions/discussions about what CoTech's purpose and short to medium term aims and objectives might be. The thrust of debate seems to be primarily about how to better work together to win business and to execute those contracts. If so, then any structure and details like common fund (how about paying a percentage of income earned through collaborative effort?) would be defined by those plans in my view.
Who would like to join the AGM (Wortley Hall) organising working group?
opt-in by Aaron Hirtenstein Closed Sat 2 Dec 2017 2:03PM
This is a call for volunteers to help organise next year's event. It does take a fair amount of time, especially closer to the event. At an estimate, I think it will be a time commitment of about 10 -12 days (70 - 84 hours) - but it could be less! It mainly involves managing the booking and invoicing of accommodation, but also liaising with the wider network on member decisions (e.g. on facilitation) and submitting funding proposals (e.g. to Solid Fund).
Results
| Results | Option | Voters | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yes | 4 | ||||
| No | 1 | ||||
| Undecided | 105 |
Aptivate Cooperators
Thu 30 Nov 2017 12:49AM
I'm down. I raised my hand that I'd like to help facilitate for next year. I'd need some training of course, but that is something that is appealing to me. I'm based in Rotterdam but I am sure I could help with all the digital stuff. +1
Chris Lowis (Go Free Range)
Fri 1 Dec 2017 1:14PM
At the very least I'd be happy to "hand over" some of the things we (Aaron/Agile/Go Free Range) learnt from organising this year's event.
Louise Scott
Fri 1 Dec 2017 1:41PM
I would be up for helping with funding applications. If we consider holding one in Scotland at any point (New Lanark instead of Wortley Hall?) I'd be up for doing more hands on stuff, being on the spot and all that ...
Annie Legge (Dot Project)
Fri 1 Dec 2017 3:39PM
We couldn't commit to as much as 10 days due to there being only 2 of us, but certainly happy to help organise an aspect of the retreat for next year (cos it was great!)
Sion Whellens (Principle Six)Fri 1 Dec 2017 6:13PM
To reiterate, this year's facilitation team (me, @peteburden and @laurahilliger) are in principle up for advising/supporting next year's facilitators.
Roy BrooksFri 1 Dec 2017 6:42PM
The summer camp was more in my line... so would tentatively volunteer for something similar if there is any interest
Sion Whellens (Principle Six)Sat 2 Dec 2017 2:53PM
HI @roy, @louisescott is on it! Re structure next year, I'm leaning towards a) open space preceded by agenda-building discussion on Discourse b) if we can make good progress on process/governance in the next few months, try and make Wortley Hall slightly more collaboration/business building and shorten to two full days starting on a Sunday evening.
Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) ·Fri 24 Nov 2017 11:37AM
For decision making I'd suggest using consensus where ever possible with a fall back to majority voting when consensus fails, which isn't an option in the current poll.
In terms of how formal CoTech should be I'd suggest that our main priority should be sorting out how we can organise ourselves best to win and deliver work for clients (once we have that solved we should have spare time and resources to address everything else) and that if this necessitates a legal entity then we should set one up and the question of membership cost would be determined by the nature of this organisation.