Space Adoption
What would we like to do with the spaces that we have available? What options are there for theme camps to create spaces to gather? What options are there who dont have live in vehicles to sleep indoors? How do we determine which camps get which spaces and how people sign up to sleep indoors?
Max Eggeling Tue 22 Nov 2022 10:46AM
I like the suggestion of the yurts being used for communal spaces and not sleeping. They're great spaces and it feels like a waste to just have them as a luxury bedroom.
In terms of making the decision of who gets to stay in bunkhouses, shall we consider the possibility of paying extra to do so? I know there was talk of not having different opt-in costs, but those of us staying in live-in vehicles will be paying a lot more in fuel than the travel costs of people staying in bunks.
Sam B Tue 22 Nov 2022 3:12PM
The biggest problem is space. If everyone came in a live in vehicle, we simply don’t have room to fit them in, we fairly well maxed out the places we were allowed to put vans last year.
I’m also quite strongly disagree with the idea of people paying extra to get an inside bed, it feels very wrong. I’m not sure what you mean about higher costs for people choosing to come in vans? How people choose to travel to a burn doesn’t really have any impact on accommodation does it? And anyway, people staying in hunks still have to get there which will have a cost (probably similar to van travel costs?) Sorry if I’m misunderstanding you, but how people choose to travel to the burn doesn’t feel relevant to how much they should pay to be there.
Max Eggeling Wed 23 Nov 2022 11:18AM
I just mean that the fuel cost of transporting a live-in vehicle is much higher than other means of transport. The way of getting there is related to accommodation as people who don't have accommodation on site will need to bring their own.
I'm not saying this has to be the answer. It does feel fair to me that people offered beds pay slightly more, as those of us who need to bring vans have to pay lots more in fuel. It's not as frustrating as having a handful of luxury glamping beds covered by everyone though.
Untipr Tue 22 Nov 2022 6:22PM
My view is no one group or person should pay extra unless they want to. I would rather offer an incentive to those that save space.
Sleeping accommodation makes up a large chunk of what we pay for the site and is not used by everyone. Few folk were talking about this last year and I understand the logic but not my view. I like the membership model where everyone pays the same and we manage the resources we have best as we can together. This gets tricky if we start charging more for one group over another.
Fran Ellis Mon 12 Dec 2022 12:52PM
The master spreadsheet contains sleeping preferences which will be useful for this discussion! Still another 45 memberships to be sold but currently there are 24 respondents who want a bunk https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1auD-irDL0ubiOI588_rxKJNqkKovz7kCI2WjMyPxmjQ/edit?usp=sharing
LB Mon 19 Dec 2022 4:21PM
Does anyone have a list of measurements for each space on site? Thanks.
Sam Lee Mon 19 Dec 2022 4:26PM
I don't think there are any measurements. Pictures is best we have I think. What you thinking?
LB Mon 19 Dec 2022 4:29PM
For a parachute activity ^_^
It’s more outside space I need to measure actually.
Sabine Hogenhout Sun 15 Jan 2023 8:41PM
Hi! We like to bring a small version of Camp Costume Camp. Is there an obvious place for it in one of the spaces? I haven't been before, so not clear on what is there and what it looks like.
Fran Ellis · Mon 21 Nov 2022 4:56PM
I totally agree that the UK is NOT Scandanavia and we're seriously lacking in deeply participatory, self organising culture. AND I think rather than accommodating that reality, we have an opportunity to change it within our teenie tiny Celtic Burn community.