Loomio

Group membrane and gatekeeping agreements for new collective governance members

pospipospi Thu 28 Nov 2019 12:35AMPublicSeen by 64

We need to formalise some decisions and processes as to how we bring new people in to the group in these early stages. It is assumed that eventually we want things to be completely open; but in this embryonic phase it may be better to lay a good foundation first.

Bob Haugen

Bob HaugenSat 14 Dec 2019 4:12PM

I don't see the usual Abstain or whatever. I don't object, but don't understand the proposal. Does

"unlisted" for readonly sharing 

...mean readonly sharing is allowed as long as somebody gives the reader a link? Or it means readonly sharing is not allowed?

And what is the list where it would not be listed?

Emaline

Emaline
Agree
Wed 18 Dec 2019 2:05AM

Still agree

Tom

Tom
Agree
Sun 15 Dec 2019 11:49PM

I agree for a grass roots approach, people need to see how decisions are made and if someone questions why the economic toolkit is taking a certain stance or direction we are able to send them the unlisted link.

pospi

pospi
Agree
Sat 14 Dec 2019 5:33AM

I think this is fine so long as we each commit to providing adequate context about the group's status and maturity.

pospi

We should make the Gitbook and Loomio group shareable

proposal by pospi Closed Sat 21 Dec 2019 4:03AM

Outcome
by pospi Mon 23 Dec 2019 1:51AM

Gitbook is now publicly shareable via a secret link: https://economikit.gitbook.io/group-governance/-LwVmwtwlxCxHXJ5Brd8/

Loomio group still private since there is no "secret link" version of visibility on Loomio. To be put to a vote in the new year (:

So that we can start to share these discussions with potentially interested parties.

Note that this would be like an "unlisted video" on YouTube in that the links to the Loomio group and Gitbook would not be publicly discoverable and can only be accessed by those we explicitly share them with (and who they share with, and so on).

Results

ResultsOptionVotes% of votes cast% of eligible voters
Agree510036Bob HaugenTomEmalineFerananda Ibarradhtnetwork
Disagree000 
Undecided964Lynn FosterSamuel Rosepospijean m russellNoah ThorpcSid SthalekarBelinda Noakes

5 of 14 votes cast (35% participation)

jean m russell

jean m russellThu 12 Dec 2019 5:55PM

Oh, I missed this somehow. I am a yes.

pospi

We should make the gitbook and Loomio group "unlisted" for readonly sharing with interested parties

proposal by pospi Closed Thu 12 Dec 2019 3:02AM

Outcome
by pospi Sat 14 Dec 2019 4:24AM

Since I started this before everyone had accounts set up, makes sense to run it again

Ideally I would like to be able to send this work-in-progress documentation to potential collaborators who might have an interest in what we're doing. So I think it makes sense to have unlisted URLs which are readonly for those in the group in order to enable us to share.

There does however need to be a clear indication given when sharing with others that these discussions are a work in progress.

Not sure how others in the group might feel about this... let's find out!

Results

ResultsOptionVotes% of votes cast% of eligible voters
Agree000 
Disagree000 
Undecided14100Bob HaugenLynn FosterSamuel RoseTompospijean m russellNoah ThorpEmalineFerananda IbarracdhtnetworkSid SthalekarBelinda Noakes

0 of 14 votes cast (0% participation)

pospi

pospiThu 28 Nov 2019 1:50AM

For this particular issue I'm specifically talking about bringing people in to be part of the decision making process of the collective. Feel free to open threads on the other topics!

Sid Sthalekar

Sid SthalekarThu 28 Nov 2019 12:55AM

It could also include organisations who wish to align their protocol with the VF language (i.e. contributing to the commons)

Sid Sthalekar

Sid SthalekarThu 28 Nov 2019 12:42AM

Would we bring in new people to be part of the decision making process of the collective? Or to contribute person-hours towards a task, or both?

pospi

pospiThu 30 Jan 2020 9:20AM

hmm, maybe. Probably being overly cautious. I don't think we're the types to create any autocratic situations... but then again, I bet that's what a lot of autocrats said :P

Sid Sthalekar

Sid SthalekarThu 30 Jan 2020 3:23AM

@pospi Reg your post about not taking a decision on not inviting Carolyn: Do we need to have a quorum? Might be too early to set those minimum limits, and instead we just roll with what we have?

pospi

pospiMon 9 Dec 2019 2:34AM

Also would be great to bring in Carolyn Beer 'cos she is doing similar work on HOLO's code of conduct

pospi

pospiThu 28 Nov 2019 12:40AM

Just noting that once decided, I would like to discuss bringing in Susan as another tech ethicist