Group membrane and gatekeeping agreements for new collective governance members
pospi Thu 28 Nov 2019 12:35AMPublicSeen by 64We need to formalise some decisions and processes as to how we bring new people in to the group in these early stages. It is assumed that eventually we want things to be completely open; but in this embryonic phase it may be better to lay a good foundation first.
Invite Carolyn Beer to participate in the collective, Loomio group & convening call
proposal by pospi Closed Wed 29 Jan 2020 3:02AM
Hmm, not enough engagement here to make a decision I feel comfortable with. We'll have to leave this for now.
For those who don't know her, Carolyn is a passionate and talented human who works with integrity. She works in managing the Holochain community and has taken on the job of stewarding HOLO's organisational culture, so there's a lot of intersection between her goals and our own.
Besides doing a lot of work to build community (especially developer community around Holo-REA), she also has an interest in being involved with academia, particularly in writing on the intersections between AI / race / class & gender.
For these reasons and more, and because I can see an obvious path where a "Holochain community technology commons" becomes one of this group's funded projects, I think we should bring Carolyn in as early as possible.
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agree | 3 | 75 | 75 | ||
| Abstain | 1 | 25 | 25 | ||
| Disagree | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0 | 0 |
pospiFri 20 Dec 2019 12:54AM
Aw damnit! The only options for Loomio are fully public, or visibility of the group and private threads (the opposite of what we want).
I guess I need to run another poll to see how people feel about being discoverable... at least I can configure Gitbook how we want to...
Readonly shareable Gitbook URL is https://economikit.gitbook.io/group-governance/-LwVmwtwlxCxHXJ5Brd8/
pospiFri 20 Dec 2019 12:46AM
Heads up- I feel confident in going ahead and actioning this - there are some people I'd like to loop in on what we're doing. Everyone has now responded who has posted elsewhere in this group, so I think that's as good as "full consent" that we're going to get... (plus, one imagines, if you haven't added any content yet you have not much stake in its visibility).
Will probably refrain from sharing links until around this time tomorrow (when the poll ends), just to allow space for any final comments or objections.
Bob HaugenTue 17 Dec 2019 1:00PM
I'm good with playing it by ear for awhile.
pospiMon 16 Dec 2019 10:20PM
@Bob Haugen see https://www.loomio.org/d/YyVlaxkz/formalising-voting-and-validity-of-decision-making-processes/1; maybe we can define the logic for how to interact with a few variants, and when they might be appropriate?
Bob HaugenMon 16 Dec 2019 3:14PM
you don't necessarily need to have the abstain / block. Perhaps this is a pointer that we should always include those options?
Not necessarily, I'm good with experiments. In this case, I would have abstained until @Tom explained what it meant, so maybe that was good...?
TomSun 15 Dec 2019 11:50PM
Hey Bob, it just allows us to share links on different votes or conversations with people outside this group but unlisted also means these links/pages don't get indexed by search engines.
pospiMon 16 Dec 2019 12:11AM
Sorry for the bad wording, Tom is correct! (below)
Also, in Loomio 2.0 there are choices for the proposal options... you don't necessarily need to have the abstain / block. Perhaps this is a pointer that we should always include those options? I thought ommitting them would result in quicker cat-herding, seems I was quite wrong about that ><
Bob HaugenSat 14 Dec 2019 4:12PM
I don't see the usual Abstain or whatever. I don't object, but don't understand the proposal. Does
"unlisted" for readonly sharing
...mean readonly sharing is allowed as long as somebody gives the reader a link? Or it means readonly sharing is not allowed?
And what is the list where it would not be listed?
pospi ·Fri 14 Feb 2020 1:43AM
In our call today it was decided unanimously by @pospi @Tom @Noah Thorp @Jean Russell @Lynn Foster @Sid Sthalekar & @Emaline to open up this group to public visibility and allow newcomers who might be interested to join us. So I think that's all to decide for now- we can talk about the specifics of inclusion processes and how to manage expressions of interest in another thread.