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Tue 8 Mar 2022 4:43PM

Spring 2022 Strategy Session

MN Matt Noyes Public Seen by 88

Social.Coop is a Mastodon instance plus Matrix chats, Loomio threads, and video conferences. In the past year, we have seen discussions of and practical steps toward greater intercooperation, for example through our participation with Meet.Coop. The Community Working Group Ops team is organizing another co-op-wide discussion of strategy, a 90 minute video conference. We can use this thread for planning the agenda, communicating logistics, and for sharing ideas and questions prior to the strategy session.

MN

Poll Created Tue 8 Mar 2022 4:48PM

Spring 2022 Strategy Session Closed Tue 22 Mar 2022 3:01PM

Outcome
by Matt Noyes Thu 31 Mar 2022 4:03PM

The purpose of this session is to have discussion on issues of concern to Social.Coop members and to think together about possible lines of development for this cooperative experiment. Some issues that have come up: transparency of SC admin, inter-cooperation with other co-ops like Meet.Coop and MayFirst.coop, [your issues here]. Matt N will follow up with a check-poll and draft agenda. Feel free to suggest items in this thread.

The Community Working Group Ops team is organizing another co-op-wide discussion of strategy, a 90 minute video conference. See this thread: https://www.loomio.org/d/NOkM3pH9/spring-2022-strategy-session

Results

UTC Votes G ES MF NC J RH NS N MC LW SC F C
Thu 21 Apr 2022  3:00PM
7.5
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Thu 21 Apr 2022  8:00PM
8
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Fri 22 Apr 2022  3:00PM
9
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Fri 22 Apr 2022  8:00PM
8
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sat 23 Apr 2022  3:00PM
9.5
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sat 23 Apr 2022  8:00PM
4.5
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sun 24 Apr 2022  3:00PM
8
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sun 24 Apr 2022  8:00PM
6
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

13 of 152 people have voted (8%)

G

Giacomo Tue 8 Mar 2022 4:48PM

Sun 24 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sun 24 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 3:00PM

All the times that you put there are not during the middle of the night where I live, and that's good enough

ES

Ed Summers Tue 8 Mar 2022 4:48PM

Sun 24 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sun 24 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 3:00PM

I'm going to make this one, promise!

NC

Nithin Coca @ncoca Tue 8 Mar 2022 4:48PM

Sun 24 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sun 24 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 3:00PM

All at the middle of the night for East Asia - but I know its not possible to find a time zone that works for all. Hope there are asynchronous ways to participate

J

JohnKuti Tue 8 Mar 2022 4:48PM

Sun 24 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sun 24 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 3:00PM

Late April is too far away for me to know about with any certainty, unfortunately.

LW

Laurie Wayne Tue 8 Mar 2022 4:48PM

Sun 24 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sun 24 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 3:00PM

My favorite times are the weekend I think!

SC

Stuart Croall Tue 8 Mar 2022 4:48PM

Sun 24 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sun 24 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Sat 23 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Fri 22 Apr 2022 3:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 8:00PM
Thu 21 Apr 2022 3:00PM

It's hard to know for sure this far out, but I'm generally pretty flexible. Sunday is the most likely day to be block by a family gathering. Looking forward to participating! 🙂

MN

Poll Created Thu 21 Apr 2022 1:35AM

Will you join the Social.Coop strategy session on Saturday 4/23? Closed Sat 23 Apr 2022 2:01PM

Outcome
by Matt Noyes Sat 23 Apr 2022 2:40PM

The Strategy Session begins in 20 minutes! Here's the link! https://socialcoop.meet.coop/mat-tof-czj-liv

Saturday, 4/23. 09:00 MDT

The purpose of this session is to have discussion of issues of concern to Social.Coop members and to think together about possible lines of development for this cooperative experiment. Some issues that have come up: transparency of SC admin, inter-cooperation with other co-ops like Meet.Coop and MayFirst.coop, [your issues here]. See this loomio thread for a draft agenda.

Results

Results Option Voters
Yes 10 BM MN N ED MF LW WM SC G A
No 5 NS DVN ES DM D
Undecided 139 DS KF ST JD CZ BH LF F SH KT C G AM MSC CCC AW MC K SC JD

15 of 154 people have voted (9%)

BM

benjamin melançon
Yes
Thu 21 Apr 2022 1:35AM

i will try to make it. My potential reason for not making it, and current preoccupation, is facilitating on-the-ground organizing against the city of Minneapolis destroying unhoused people's homes, property, and community.

A

alain
Yes
Thu 21 Apr 2022 1:35AM

I want to get involved in the coop. Since I'm new, I'll try to catch up. Please forgive me if I'm not much helpful

NS

Nathan Schneider
No
Thu 21 Apr 2022 1:35AM

Darn, I have my kid's t-ball game! But can't wait to hear what comes of it.

D

Django
No
Thu 21 Apr 2022 1:35AM

Can’t make this one, looking forward to renewed participation

ES

Ed Summers
No
Thu 21 Apr 2022 1:35AM

I have a last minute conflict (kids football tournament) but if it gets cancelled I'll be there!

LW

Laurie Wayne
Yes
Thu 21 Apr 2022 1:35AM

I am more observer/learner than contributor but I am an interested and supportive one!

MN

Matt Noyes Thu 21 Apr 2022 1:51AM

DRAFT AGENDA for 4/23 Strategy Session

https://socialcoop.meet.coop/mat-tof-czj-liv

  • quick introductions

  • agenda and time check

  • quick look at the dashboard:

    • SC membership

    • operations: Finance, Tech, Community

    • Meet.Coop membership/use

  • rose, bud, thorn

    • what is making social.coop valuable to you at this point?

    • what potential do you see in social.coop? what kinds of things could we do, or do more of?

    • what makes social.coop uncomfortable or less useful to you?

  • concerns that have been raised in Matrix and Mastodon:

    • are the operations that keep SC going transparent enough?

    • are there barriers to participation in governance/operations?

    • are our moderation policies and procedures satisfactory?

    • [other]

  • Next steps for each of us.

  • Quick Evaluation of the session.

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ED

emi do Sun 24 Apr 2022 2:19PM

Notes from the strategy session:

Quick Introductions:

·     Matt N: Colorado (Ops team member, responsible for bad weather in Winnipeg)

·     Allain: Brussels (would like to see if there are opportunities to help)

·     Matt C: Vermont (Finance WG)

·     Laurie: OFN in US (here to be supportive and learn, plug in)

·     Stuart: Winnipeg (new to SC, interested in co-ops in general)

·     Mica: NYC (Ops team member)

·     Neil: UK (hoping to join tech WG)

·     Will: (wants to see what's going on)

·     Giacomo: Florence (I like coops because I like collective ownership and democratic administration of means of production of wealth)

Agenda

Quick overview of Social.Coop

  • SC membership: 

    • Mastodon: 1,360 (around 150 weekly users)

    • Loomio: 158

    • Meet: 37

    • OpenCollective: 408

    • Matrix: usually used for tech issues

  • Operations (Working Groups): more descriptions on loomio

    • Finance: undergoing some changes at the moment- expense filed to open collective, triggers notification to finance WG, vote on loomio, approves expense 

      • have a decent reserve, currently hosted through fiscal sponser on Open Collective 

      • current balance £6,778.77

      • total raised £23,338.34

      • annual budget £3,411.67

  • Tech: responsible for:

    • domain registration

    • SSL certificate

    • mastodon updates

    • managing tech part registration process

    • currently onboarding new members to the team

    • members get a stipend

  • Community: main tasks are process new registrations, moderation of the instance,  Code of Conduct, registration on loomio and meet.coop,  build community, happy hours, 

    • members get a stipend for being on call and meetings

  • Question: what is the best way for a new member to get involved and participate more meaningfully? 

    • active on mastodon instance, get a sense of the culture, posting, responding and building connections

    • loomio is not always active (until there is an issue)

    • CWG Ops team: authorized 5 'seats' - each year there is a poll/ call for new members 

    • It's intimidating joining mastodon, CWGOT has been talking about an onboarding video, that might be helpful

    • Stuart interested in writing down mastodon questions as a new user 

Rose, bud, thorn 

  • Rose: what is making social.coop valuable to you at this point?

    • find allies and interesting content

    • conversations and better answers related  to co-op dev. (ex: multistakeholder co-ops) 

    • on a systems level: experiment of how do we do this together (resilience)

    • SNS that puts me in a good mood :)

    • talk to other cooperators 

    • facilitated transition from co-op curious to co-op owner-member

    • happy with the crowd, regular user of meet.coop (min 3 meetings/week)

    • community, interesting stuff you see, entrance to fediverse, makes sense

    • less toxic than other SNS

    • serves as an AMA (ask me anything) co-op space 

    • cooperative structure

    • owning our own tools, alternative to big tech platforms

    • making connections with likeminded people

    • learning experience to see different conversations 

    • functioning of a cooperative from the inside, inspiration

    • deep engagement, connections are stronger and translate to outside of the instance

    • experience of the individual timelines are different, gain different perspectives

  • Bud: what potential do you see in social.coop? what kinds of things could we do, or do more of?

    • collaborate to offer cooperative run software? (similar to meet.coop example)

    • ex: find co-op run nextcloud, may first, framasoft, disroot

    • two components: run + host

    • running a platform on our own seems daunting but SC could be a great place for people to bring projects, buzzy place for new co-ops to test ideas, attract more co-ops to use SC to get started and get started

    • document our example to inspire other groups to run their own instances - instead of scaling up, we can help scale out (community, tech, finance) : https://documentation.divio.com

    • the idea of co-ownership and shared responsibility is revolutionary and inspiring - helping people consider moving from consumers to participants

  • Question: do we want to grow membership?  

    • registration process is limiting our visibility for new people joining mastodon

    • if we want to grow and be a 'one stop shop' for co-op services, it might be a good idea to expand our reach

    • what would we want to include in the 'commons'?  

    • development working group?

  • Thorn: what makes social.coop uncomfortable or less useful to you?

    • Just getting acquainted/onboarding - there's a big first step into this world

    • automated re-tweeting: different cultures

    • moderation (fediblock?)

    • new members/ members not involved in WG feel like they dont' understand how social.coop operates

    • information being spread over different platforms is challenging (time consuming)

    • always feel like you might be missing something

    • would be nice to have a way to centralize information

    • guppe.groups, shares and re-boosts posts that are related to a certain topic (hashtags would work within social.coop), most useful across different servers, 

    • trying to link loomio to mastodon, RSS feeds, web bots, surface automatically the governance that is taking place

    • who are the members? registration on different accounts (loomio, mastodon, matrix, open collective) --> how to integrate these?

    • how to facilitate deep engagement when microblogging doesn't naturally allow for this (social.coop as a coordination tool) 

      • karrot platform (model for engaged community action oriented)

      • framasoft (mobilizon)

  • Note: concerns that have been raised in Matrix and Mastodon:

    • are the operations that keep SC going transparent enough?

    • are there barriers to participation in governance/operations?

    • are our moderation policies and procedures satisfactory?

Action Steps

Quick Evaluation of the session (chat) 

Will (datatitian) 9:27 AM Thumbs up! So glad I came

Mica (she/her) 9:27 AM I feel good about it! I liked being able to hear from newer members

Emi 9:28 AM Need a different method for discussing issues that have come up (moderation etc.) but love the energy of these sessions!

Neil 9:28 AM Session was great, was nice to see fellow members faces again, I really like the rose, bud, thorn framing, good energy and lots of ideas

alto 9:28 AM It was a great moment. Really instructive and nice. Thank you

Stuart Croall 9:29 AM I enjoyed this and found it very useful. Looking forward to more opportunities to continue discussions

M

mike_hales Mon 25 Apr 2022 3:10PM

Great to see this lively discussion reaching down into principles and strategy. Sorry I was unable to join, things are busy in meet.coop (launching a Board of stewards, doing strategy, getting serious on raising membership level aka revenue) .

Would certainly be good if the world of mastodon became easier to enter, more transparent. Likewise, the world of social coop!

If you do like meet.coop please do boost us w friends and collaborators. We need the money! To pay for core work & essential improvement. Love & solidarity mike

SC

Stuart Croall Mon 25 Apr 2022 4:09PM

Now that it's snowing here again, and water has stopped infiltrating our basement, I've had a look at the "documentation system" link, and some related videos, and am having another look at wiki.social.coop, and am left with some questions and ideas. I'm curious about how the wiki/documentation is maintained at this point. Is there a specific group that is tasked with working on this? What system is used?

I remember when I first came across Social Coop it was a bit...opaque. It wasn't that it didn't seem friendly or welcoming, but it presented as a bit confusing, and it wasn't clear what its status was. The blog link leads to a committee report from 2019, which left me wondering how active or successful it was.

Anyway, I have lots of ideas running through my head right now, which I'll try to capture and sort through. But that leads to the question: Where is the best place to start working through ideas about documentation and the onboarding experience of new members, or the impressions created for curious visitors? Is it best to lay out some of these questions and ideas in a new Loomio thread?

MN

Matt Noyes Mon 25 Apr 2022 4:45PM

Hi Stuart, the Wiki is updated when the spirit moves somebody. Much of the existing documentation was created in response to a crisis in social.coop that occurred after a big influx of people from Twitter. This question is great: "Where is the best place to start working through ideas about documentation and the onboarding experience of new members, or the impressions created for curious visitors? Is it best to lay out some of these questions and ideas in a new Loomio thread?" Loomio is the place for drawing up and discussing proposals, but it may be good to initiate conversation on the Mastodon instance, to see who would like to help out?