Out of region players and qualification

I'm happy with the current 2/3rds rule. I don't see any need to change it.
We want players to come here and play, and we want to be welcomed when we go elsewhere to play.

Can you be more specific on the topic. i.e. do you mean our regions qualifier for WHBPC or the WHBPC itself?

This is a long way off so no rush to decide. Plus I think we should prioritise the discussion and decide on our regions qualifier format and date over this issue.

To be specific:

Would we like to poll the current jedi council reps regarding a change to the current 2/3rd Australasian component required for gaining entry to WHBPC2016 via the australasian qualifier?

I could be more specific but to will come at significant cost in the form of a sardonic tone.

Can I ask if you're proposing we change it? If so, to what?

You're asking we debate something but I'd like to see an alternative rule proposed or some justification of the debate such as your club would like it changed. It's not that I'm against a change, it's just that I'm reluctant about moving further unless there's a reason too.

I honestly don't care really. I like it the way it is. If someone wants it changed then they can do the work to propose an alternative. I initially thought you were obfuscating brook, but now I get your drift ; )

So think it's a good idea but low priority. After we get worlds and the qualifier running we should then discuss the qualification criteria.

A simple solution is emulate the nah qualifier rules, that you can only play one qualifier. It allows more teams to qualify that way. And saves the problems of what happened with Jono 2013 qualifying here then in Europe. Or Sean last year doing the same. It eliminates the chance of one player/team spot being removed from the available pool.

I thought we were discussing just the Australasian rules for qualification. The world rules would have to be a wider discussion involving the international community.

I don't see a problem with qualifying in two regions. If I choose to play NA's should I really abstain from playing Australasian qualifiers. What if I play with very different teams. Surely it's the teams that qualify and not the individuals. I've never really thought about it. If I passed on one of the spots then surely it would go to the next team. Yes, if the qualifier was limited by numbers it would remove one member from contending entirely which is perhaps the problem. I guess it just depends if we are excluding relative contenders for worlds spot allocation by limiting numbers.

In Melbourne for instance I can see a moral dilemma if I did pre-qualify somewhere else in the world and then wanted to take one of the spots given to the club to field a team at nationals. It would really depend on the quality of the team I was excluding. My opinion is that we should leave it up to the clubs to decide who they send according to their allocation.

Just thinking out loud.

D.

So in the NAH and Europe you can only play one qualifier. Luca played the French last year even though he lives in england. Piere played in Seattle even though he is from Cali. The reason for this is it levels the competition and stops a player who can afford to traveling to many qualifiers to increase their chances.

My view of how this works for us is:

If you play in Australasians then you can't play in another Qualifier (NAH, Euro's)

Japan already do this. So do Europe and America. And they trawl Podium to keep people honest.

Shit I would love to travel to three continents and play a bunch of qualifiers to increase my chances and give me the chance to learn more.

I know that a lot of players have been unhappy with past years qualification process. Jono came over in 2013 and qualified to worlds, then went back to Europe and qualified again. His team went (my team mates from nats 2014) with a different third. This example is always pointed to, which I think is fair, as why the Australasian qualification system needs to be fixed.

Moving to the world standard seems pretty damn logical.

Our 2/3rds rule I think has worked really well in the past. It's fair for locals and travelers. I think with a qualifier much further in advance of WHBPC then there's little chance some one would try to qualify through us and their own, but I don't see any harm in the minor tweak to bring it in line with the global scene. As with the other rules, I don't see an issue of them still playing, just that they wouldn't qualify (obvs that bit depends on the tournament format and structure).