Polls, Discussion topics, Debates
Here we will use Polls to identify current issues and feelings on the issue? This may inform a dedicated debate, meetings, papers, research or other responses based on the question and the feedback.
Marianna Ganapini Mon 22 Mar 2021 6:45AM
Hi RyanI'm traveling and my internet is bad, so I can't vote on Loomio. Can I cast my vote by email? I'd vote yes.
Thanks!
Marianna
Ursula Maria Mayer Sun 14 Mar 2021 5:22PM
A.E.: "a discipline of applying Ethical Decisions in all life-cycle phases of automated and intelligent systems including the design, development, operation, maintenance and end-of-life phase." I included"all life-cycle phases" and added the critical end-of-life phase. The term "Ethical Choice" is not intuitively clear. I like to imply with "Ethical Decisions" that it is a "must" to apply ethics. It also carries in its name, that there is not a unique solution, which fits all AI systems.
Christine Jakobson Sun 21 Mar 2021 10:23AM
Suggestion for rephrasing the definition, in order to avoid saying 'ethics is a discipline of applying':
"Algorithm Ethics is the systematic application of Ethical Choice during the design, deployment and maintenance phase of automated and intelligent systems"
Enrico Panai Sun 14 Mar 2021 5:22PM
In the disciplines, I would add "explainability"
Mark Potkewitz Sun 14 Mar 2021 5:22PM
I'm concerned about the use of 'discipline' and 'phases' and 'context'. I think we can simplify while still covering more ground.
Patricia Shaw Sun 14 Mar 2021 5:22PM
I suggest the inclusion of decommissioning in amongst the algorithm lifecycle. Provided Ethical Choice includes a consciousness of technical, social and cultural bias and an understanding of the context of such "choice" or at least the application domain of the algorithm, then this definition should work.
Inbal Karo Wed 17 Mar 2021 2:07AM
A. Why "in the context of"? It makes sense in the ethical choice definition, but here it doesn't. They're stages of the process. B. Are they all the stages? Shouldn't we just write all stages? C. I'd add an Oxford comma D. I'm not sure about the sub-disciplines, are we finalizing that now as well? Can we discuss it separately?
Dorothea Baur Sun 14 Mar 2021 5:22PM
I'm only skeptical about the term 'discipline'. That sounds academic to me. I might be mistaken. What about 'subject area'? I also struggle to see a red thread in the list of 'disciplines'. Proportionality is a principle, Risk Analysis is an activity, etc... If at all, these should be called 'sub-disciplines' rather than disciplines if they are part of algo ethics; but I'd prefer to talk about 'key issues' of algorithm ethics or something along these lines, anyway.
Emmanuelle Shaaravi Sun 14 Mar 2021 5:22PM
In the Algorithm Ethics, I would add KRI design (Key Risk Indicator). KPI tends to be more about performance of the business whereas KRI is more about what might prevent the Entity from achieving its goals (likelihood of future adverse impact).
Ryan Carrier · Mon 22 Mar 2021 10:54AM
yes that is great thank you. Safe travels and thanks for voting