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Wed 21 Nov 2018 8:26PM

Circles! Hmmmm good god y'all What are they good for... Absolutely External Comms!

GG Griff Green Public Seen by 191

There has been a lot of debate about the organizing of Giveth into circles... This thread is here to discuss it!

Circles were put in place to model the projected DApp Governance before the DApp existed and it took the Giveth Galaxy by storm! We had an Organizing force.

The Roles sheet was attempted before Circles but failed at that time to get buy-in. Now we have the roles sheet and the roles meeting going full speed! And the DApp has campaigns working! So now circles are sort of redundant right!? Let's get rid of them!!!

Oh wait... Circles are all over the place in our wiki, manifesto, and even in the roles sheet itself! They have become part of the Giveth vernacular... almost kin to "departments" some circles consist of multiple campaigns and some campaigns are even working within multiple circles (RewardDAO, ScalingNow!). Most importantly, The concept of circles is a crucial way to explain that the core of the Giveth Galaxy does more then just work on the DApp, and when people want to contribute to Giveth, its a really easy for them to sort themselves out by saying "I want to help with Comms," or "I want to be a part of Social Coding." It helps them understand how they can help!

The key part of Circles that seems to be the main problem with in the Giveth culture is the idea of a "Circle lead". This was put in place because thats how it was in the DApp, but now that we have the DApp and the Roles sheet.... while it might not make sense to get rid of Circles... getting rid of circle leads is easy :-D

Thoughts :-D?

KI

Kris is Wed 28 Nov 2018 7:48PM

 
1 - Keep things how they are! If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
 
2 - Get rid of Circle Leads
 
3 - Get rid of Circles altogether

All for more bottom up, Dani said it perfectly. All for keeping the circles, it's also how our updated site will be organized, our roles are linked to it and all the other things Griff mentioned. For external people it's just important to find their way when coming in, and even for us. Structure does not mean hierarchy but it does mean some clarity and stability.

JE

Jeff Emmett Thu 22 Nov 2018 6:16PM

I agree with Michael as well - in the beginning, I was a little confused about why we were putting Comms on the same field as the DApp. Apple promotes their products to their users, not their internal operational structure. I feel like we are still promoting Giveth "as a whole" to a tech-heavy, governance-minded community. In that case, I don't think it is a problem to lay out how Giveth functions in the way we do - we are trying to make it clear where new community members can join and give value, whether external or internal. At some point down the line, I believe we will need to consider the customer facing message and branding of Giveth (or aspects of Giveth, like the DApp) - something I am definitely down to assist on!