Switching Petition Platforms
Tristan Copley Smith Sun 30 Oct 2016 10:50AMPublicSeen by 106The #WeAreTwitter petition is currently hosted on the Action Network platform. Change.org is an alternative platform interested in hosting our petition for the campaign's re-launch on Monday (tomorrow).
Here are the pros and cons, as highlighted in the #communications channel on Slack:
Pros for moving to Change.org:
- It is a better known platform with larger community (12m in UK alone)
- They have offered to support our campaign in newsletters emails to their community in UK an look into other countries as well
- There have been issues with the Action Network platform including language support, misleading signature goals, smaller user community
Cons for moving to Change.org:
- Current petition signees will need to re-sign, we may loose some
- Unlike Action Network, Change.org is for-profit and controversial among some activists (see http://bit.ly/2f0Ep8g)
- They use cookies and tracking for advertisements
Amelia Rose Khan
Sun 30 Oct 2016 6:39PM
I don't see how change.org is better then AN except for wider outreach help. The outreach help doesn't give me enough to say change.org is better.
Bernardo Parrella
Sun 30 Oct 2016 6:53PM
even if a bit risky, as others pointed out, it's certainly worth switching -- but we must ensure that it can be translated in as many languages as possible (and collect email addresses)
Tom McDonoughSun 30 Oct 2016 7:07PM
The database of petition signers is our most important asset and must remain independent.
I don't know the backend of either Change or ActionNetwork but keeping the database where it is seems best.
mai ishikawa suttonSun 30 Oct 2016 7:44PM
It doesn't seem like the reasons for leaving AN is outweighed by the benefits of Change, especially given its drawbacks re: privacy, being for-profit, lack of ability to control the post-signing page, and questionable lack of language support.
Katharina SimonSun 30 Oct 2016 11:27AM
Ok then lets do that
Johnny HaeuslerSun 30 Oct 2016 3:31PM
I will cross post this: Who can set up a test petition on change.org to see a) if they allow international campaigns with different languages and b) if we have control over the data generated?
Kirsten LambertsenSun 30 Oct 2016 4:01PM
I'm also curious about the re-signing bit. Is that really necessary? Would a new, differently worded petition cancel out our previous petition?
Bernardo ParrellaSun 30 Oct 2016 8:23PM
we are discussing this on slack right now: https://buytwitter.slack.com/messages/petition/ (we'd consolidate all discussion topics in only one place, no? slack seems better for this...even if there is the "loomio bot")
Danny SpitzbergMon 31 Oct 2016 5:24AM
I'm generally for whatever we can to do amplify our efforts and draw attention to the petition. Also, I see a lot of renewed enthusiasm around this move!
So, to clarify the opportunity and channel our energy, I drafted a 1-page doc with my best shot at summarizing our campaign goals, strategies, tactics, and timeline/escalation – check it out and make comments/edits at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vy-gOGDLDeRLkw48wraNoB8sOZlHXtz1NI9C5YhNfR4/edit.
Now if we believe 100,000 signatures is enough (as @mairasutton commented) to "open doors" to more press coverage and to Twitter (as @johnnyhaeusler said), then we can evaluate our strategies, see how they add up (or not), and coordinate our efforts.
One last thing: 1,529 people already signed one petition. As @ntnsndr has said, we absolutely must send an honest, motivating invitation to these individuals to add their name a second time.
Time to sign the new petition!
proposal by Nathan Schneider Closed Tue 1 Nov 2016 3:02PM
Okay, we're public! Spread the word far and wide. Here's a tweet to RT: https://twitter.com/internetowners/status/793464419518865409
You voted on it (or had a chance to). This week we're re-launching the #WeAreTwitter petition with help and support from Shareable and Change.org. We need to start seeding the petition with our names before it goes public. Please sign your names here:
https://www.change.org/p/twitter-inc-free-twitter-from-wall-street
Don't start spreading this to your networks until Tuesday morning.
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Agree | 5 | 83 | 2 |    | |
| Abstain | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 1 | 17 | 0 | ||
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 243 | 98 |                  |
6 of 249 votes cast (2% participation)
Nathan SchneiderTue 1 Nov 2016 2:39AM
Did it!
Michael SiepmannTue 1 Nov 2016 3:05AM
Done.
Bernardo ParrellaTue 1 Nov 2016 4:15AM
just signed
Billy K.Tue 1 Nov 2016 11:02AM
Who exactly is the addressee of the petition? What I want to say is that a petition does not affect at all on private company. Petitions are commonly addressed to governmental administrations.
Timothy A McDonaldTue 1 Nov 2016 1:48PM
Done.
Nathan SchneiderTue 1 Nov 2016 1:21PM
@billyk if you look at the petitions on major sites, including Change.org, you'll see many are addressed to non-state actors. A petition like this only has an effect based on its performative impact, so there's no reason it would affect a state any more than a company. And a company could be quite affected by it, actually, if the company finds it embarrassing or a manifestation of concern by users.
Johnny Haeusler ·Sun 30 Oct 2016 11:13AM
@katharinasimon Indiego is for crowdfunding in the first place and betterplace isn't international enough. change.org is a little controversial, but they have the largest community and operate worldwide. If we think about countries like Turkey that we haven't reached out for yet, change.org could help the most.