Proposal: that the Platform 6 Development Fund supports the first stage in the development of interactive online tools for co-operative development

I have attached a revised version of the bid that addresses the following concerns raised on this thread:

• Could CAN take away P6's license to host the thing?

• What happens if CAN goes bust?

• How much feedback are you currently getting from users? (This would increase from <10% to 100%)

• Disambiguating IP of the tool(s) (copyright CAN) and the new software (Open source)

So you don't have to read the whole thing again, these are the changes:

• Value proposition for the end user: added "Access to intelligence gained from analysis of all aggregated data relating to the specific tool(s) that they use and not just data that users choose to share, which is currently very little"

• Data protection: changed "P6 will host the system" to "P6 will host the system in perpetuity"

• Data protection: added "In the event that CAN ceases to trade all data and IP rights relating to this project that are owned by CAN will pass to Platform 6."

• IP Rights section replaced by 3 new sections: Aggregated data and users’ feedback, Use of the tool and Use of the new software. Please read these new sections for details.

We would like to thank those who have raised these concerns as responding to them has made us address issues that we hadn't considered in sufficient detail.

We would like to put this proposal to P6 Members for approval (or otherwise) in the near future but first need to check that people are happy with the amendments. In the absence of any objections I'll put it to Members on 16/12.

I was reminded about good old https://cda-anywhere.com/ by a question raised by Dave. Hopelessly out of date now (est 2000), it nevertheless has some useful archive breakdowns and headings - and even some templates and other tools which could be tweaked. All the best, M

Thank you all for your feedback.  Some good points have been raised, which we are taking into consideration as we update the document.  It's getting quite detailed and complex but the positive responses encourage us to press on.  Stand by for v12.

Hi Leo. I think this is a fair point. My understanding - given that I was involved in working up the proposal - is that the amount requested is an estimate of costs, and in my view is at the higher end of the range. While there is still detail to be finalised my sense is that the work could be completed within the timeframe estimated, leaving something in the kitty. If I was to take a wild guess, given what I know right now I reckon if all goes relatively smoothly, and we don't end up tied into knots around data permissioning, open sourcing, etc., we could probably get it done for 70-80% of the estimated cost.

This issue is outside the scope of the proposal itself but is an important consideration and is, in my opinion, its biggest threat.

More than happy to fund this but do feel it would be bit unfair to other coops that might want funding to allocate 80% of the funds to a single project.

As I understand it P6 has about £5000 and this proposal is for £4000 so it's currently about 80% of funds.

Looks good and would be happy for P6 to fund it, but how much funding is asked from Platform6? I would not support P6 putting more than 20% of its funds into one project.

Thanks so much, Nathan, a really interesting article and so obvious why Zoom can be so tiring and stressful. & I thought it was just me! 😉

Also your brain has to work harder to fill in the missing bits, which is why we suffer from zoom fatigue and IMO may make for poorer decisions as we are tired. More here: https://news.stanford.edu/2021/02/23/four-causes-zoom-fatigue-solutions/