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Tue 28 Nov 2017 8:58PM

Transferring power

KC Kristian Colletis-Wahl Public Seen by 161

Hi there,
I prepare to use Loomio for a consultation in a liquid-democratic style. I miss a functionality that would permit to transfer the possibility of choice to other people (transitivity).
Do you think it could be interesting to develop something in this way?
Thanx !

MB

Matthew Bartlett Tue 28 Nov 2017 9:39PM

FWIW, here and here are a couple of previous discussions of liquid democracy on Loomio.

KC

Kristian Colletis-Wahl Tue 28 Nov 2017 9:44PM

Thanks Matthew
In particular for this link criticising delegation. I will have an in-depth look.
https://arxiv.org/html/1204.2991v1

DS

Danyl Strype Wed 19 Dec 2018 5:18AM

If you do want to experiment with vote delegation, you could try out LiquidFeedback:
https://liquidfeedback.org/

KC

Kristian Colletis-Wahl Wed 19 Dec 2018 9:20AM

yes thanks...I know it, but wanted to know if it was possible to integrate it in Loomio.

RG

Rob Guthrie Wed 19 Dec 2018 6:59PM

It's possible. We could build a view to choose a delegate for a group, then multiply the score by the number of delegates.

Is your organization in a position to pay for some of the development of it?

KC

Kristian Colletis-Wahl Thu 20 Dec 2018 1:10PM

not sure... it is a french University :slight_frown:

RG

Rob Guthrie Fri 21 Dec 2018 2:16AM

Very interesting, what kind of decisions are you trying to make, and with how many people?

KC

Kristian Colletis-Wahl Sun 19 May 2019 8:13PM

Hi Robert, sorry for my late answer... We are implementing the overall evaluation of our University in France involving about 20.000 members (not all of them will participate) by using liquid democracy methodologies.
There will be several stages :
1- presentation of existing situation
2- propositions of members concerning improvements (everyone can make propositions)
3- votes concerning the importance of improvements (priorisation). For this stage it woul be great to have a possibility of delegation of votes in order to increase participation of our students
4- Elaboration of a questionnaire based on point 3
5- random panel of participants which will have to elaborate conclusions and recommendations.

RG

Rob Guthrie Sun 19 May 2019 9:01PM

In the near term we plan to release a "members" page, which shows all the members in an organization. That would be a good place to select your representative for when you don't participate in a poll.

We would be happy to discuss developing a contract to bring this functionality to Loomio for you. Please use my contact button to email me privately and discuss further.

KC

Kristian Colletis-Wahl Mon 20 May 2019 7:07AM

email has been sent !

MB

Midi Berry Thu 20 Dec 2018 4:00PM

Our Gene Keys Society would be very interested to see a liquid democracy mechanism built into Loomio. We are about to undertake a review of our whole communication systems and it could be a big plus for us to retain Loomio if delegated voting is introduced. So sorry we are not in a financial position to help fund this, dear Loomio developers, but you have our heartfelt support, for whatever that may be valued by you. :clap: :laughing: :heart:

RH

Rodney Herold Fri 21 Dec 2018 10:30PM

I am not sure what "liquid feedback" means.
The Black and Tan Hall has 40 some partners operating in an attempt to be "egalitarian." My only complaint about Loomio is how the two possible actions for a Proposal are labeled. The first input is clear: being one's "Choice" (Agree, Abstain, Disagree or Block). The second input is labeled "VOTE" -- consisting of a 250 character field. I feel strongly we are NOT voting -- rather we are expressing our "VOICE' about our Choice, providing our meaning as to why we have made our choice plus any pertinent feelings, and possibly even using emoji's in the process!). :nerd: I find the 250 character limit to be a positive factor -- it hopefully promotes succinctness and clarity and is brief enough to encourage serious digestion by everyone interested.
How Power is held and transferred is definitely a challenge :astonished:

RH

Rodney Herold Wed 22 May 2019 4:49AM

How do you change the administrator of a Loomio group?

I will be moving out of the administrator position at B&TH and would like to transfer the administrator role/authority to another person --and change the payment for Loomio access directly to the Black and Tan Hall Credit Union account. What needs to be done?? Can all of our decisions, threads and comments be carried forward?

M

Michael Wed 22 May 2019 5:33AM

Hi Rodney, you can make anyone in your group an admin/coordinator:

Click on the three dots next to the person you want to make a coordinator, and then choose ‘Make Coordinator’. You will now see that the person’s avatar has an orange ring around it. Everyone with an orange ring is a coordinator.
See Coordinators in Help

You can change the payment person and update card details in the Loomio billing portal. There's a link called 'Account management' at the bottom of your last Loomio statement. Here's more info on Help about Subscription management.

There's no change to your group's information :ok_hand:

If you have further questions specific to your group, please send me a message using contact@loomio.org or Contact