Tue 13 Mar 2018 9:20PM

Experimentation with Open App Ecosystem

LV Luandro Vieira Public Seen by 83

I've just recently joined the group, but from the quick research I did around the threads and loose resources, I already have a feeling that what I've been working on is with total alliance with what Open App Ecosystem proposes. So it maybe a good idea to share.

I plan on experimenting with a mesh network in my neighborhood, which is a quilombola village in central Brazil. I'm gathering the necessary hardware, and researching on how to setup the network. Theoretically I'll get a network where devices running p2p protocols like SSB and Dat can communicate freely with one another. I was thinking of an ecosystem of applications to run on the communities local network with objective of strengthening community economic resilience and self-governance, which seem to go well with OAE. I built these inspired by ideas I got from the OAE and they are welcome to be used.

I'm currently working on the boilerplate as a proof-of-concept for the architecture, which can be found here:


I'll start working on the proposed Open App Hub once I get a working proof-of-concept. The command line tool for scaffolding applications is still just at idea phase.

Great job and thank you all for the inspiration.


Bob Haugen Tue 13 Mar 2018 9:33PM

@luandrovieira this is so awesome I am sharing it with lots and lots of people!
How can they all help?


Luandro Vieira Tue 13 Mar 2018 9:56PM

@bobhaugen please do share. Anyone is welcome to join development of the boilerplate. I think there are very few people who have ventured in trying to tweak SSB on mobile, and the more people developing with it, the better it gets :slight_smile:


Luandro Vieira Tue 13 Mar 2018 10:01PM

@bobhaugen @lynnfoster do you guys think it's ok to share this on SSB? Since I'm using OAE's name, I'm not sure this community would like my experiments linked with the ecosystem. I'd like to keep a record at #moinho-mesh channel of the ideas that made it happen (if it actually does happen).


Bob Haugen Tue 13 Mar 2018 10:04PM

@luandrovieira please do share on SSB! They already know about OAE, and they are interested in your ongoing experiments. And several people from SSB are also in OAE. Close friends, I'd say.


ivan Tue 13 Mar 2018 10:23PM

Hi @luandrovieira , such an amazing project!
Together with @bobhaugen and @lynnfoster for the last year we worked pretty closed to develop an OAE approach inside fair.coop ecosystem.
We created this github org: https://github.com/opencooperativeecosystem
and the first app we developed is a tool to manage production cooperatively, following VF syntax: https://github.com/opencooperativeecosystem/kanban
We are planning several other apps: one for decentralized work validation, another for value distribution across an ecosystem and a wallet to manage social currencies.
Ultimate goal of the apps is to allow selfmanagement and autonomy inside communities, and allow decentralized governance.
All the apps currently are built with react, connected with a graphql layer to fetch/update data. We are discussing often how to move towards a p2p backend (currently the graphql layer is built on top of a django backend) and your proposal seems to fit really well in our discussions...
It would be great to understand if/how to merge effort :)


Luandro Vieira Tue 13 Mar 2018 10:29PM

Hey @ivan116 , that's amazing. I've seen Kanban cited in a some of the resources, but didn't get the chance to check any repos. Once the boilerplate is ready it shouldn't be to hard to change the resolvers for the GraphQL in order to communicate with SSB and Dat instead of Django. I'm eager to see VF used to build an application for a community, it has so much potential.

Please let me know if there's anything I can do for you guys, I'm very happy to help with anything :clap:


ivan Tue 13 Mar 2018 10:55PM

Do u think we can work toward a pilot of the kanban as first app, that could be useful both for your local community in Brazil and for faircoop too?


Luandro Vieira Tue 13 Mar 2018 11:09PM

Kanban seems like a quite complex app, but we can definitely try. I have simple apps in mind to try out the architecture and Kanban would be a good challenge for a more complex app.


ivan Tue 13 Mar 2018 11:22PM

Make sense, what kind of simpler app do you have in mind so far?


Luandro Vieira Tue 13 Mar 2018 11:35PM

First is the App Hub, which would be very similar to https://github.com/staltz/dat-installer but with a social network around the apps.

After that I would start with various ideas, but collaborating with VF to build economic applications seems to be more tempting :thinking:

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