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Tue 30 Oct 2012 10:18PM

Archiving Discussions

PS Paul Smith Public Seen by 132

The card on Trello has 4 votes so it seems like there's support for this feature.

Use cases:

1) A user creates a dummy discussion as an example or for testing and then realises it's in their group history forever. The User or Group wants to get rid of this discussion and never see it again.

2) A user creates a discussion within a group, a consensus is reached, the decision is acted on and "completed". The Group then wants to put this discussion into a seperate area so that it can be looked at or referenced later but isn't in the list of what is currently being decided on.


Questions

How would we want this to work and what would it look like?

Will archived discussions still be viewable? Or should there be an option when archiving to keep it in history or not. (check box?)

If archived discussions are still viewable

Will archived discussions be locked? Eg/ Can someone still comment or create a proposal on an archived discussion?

Is it better to be able to dig up "dead" discussions or start a fresh new discussion referencing the old one?

RDB

Richard D. Bartlett Sat 3 Nov 2012 10:31AM

I'm not 100% convinced case 1 is legit. I'm one of the 'new users' you're referring to and I went looking for that specific discussion and was bugged out to not find it. It felt really at odds with transparency and I'm not at all convinced that it was good that you had the superpowers to delete it.

PS

Paul Smith Thu 15 Nov 2012 12:53AM

In the interest of making things less confusing, let's just focus on Use case 1 for now as it seems highest priority.

Effectively what the user wants to see is a delete button for discussions for when something goes wrong or just needs to be removed.

There are some problems super powers wise with someone having the power to delete a discussion but... are there any ways to work around that?

Maybe only discussions with no comments (or under a threshold) could be delete-able?
Or have a 24 hour window where a discussion can still be removed?

JL

Jon Lemmon Thu 15 Nov 2012 9:51AM

I have a strong inclination that admins need the ability to delete a discussion at any time, regardless of how long the conversation has gone on for or how many comments have occurred. I think admins should be able to do nearly anything.

And maybe we say that the discussion is just "hidden" instead of deleted. So if some of the group members complain about it being deleted the discussion can always be retrieved.

RDB

Richard D. Bartlett Fri 16 Nov 2012 4:50AM

So, give admins the option to hide a discussion but don't worry about building the 'retrieve' feature until later?

JL

Jon Lemmon Mon 19 Nov 2012 2:18AM

Basically yeah, although I think building in the "retrieve" functionality is so simple that it could probably be done at the same time.

Sounds like it's time for some mockups!

PS

Paul Smith Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:24AM

I'm not really sold on the "retrieve" feature, Archive/Deletes should be a tough decision and rarely used so I don't think it should be an easy option to get them back.

I've added a mockup on mybalsamiq with where I think the option would be. I think changing the small down arrow to a cog might make sense too? (In the discussion title bar).

PS

Paul Smith Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:25AM

RDB

Richard D. Bartlett Wed 21 Nov 2012 4:00AM

Screwy permissions on that link, I can't access.

Does balsamiq have a permission setting to make it viewable to anyone without forcing login?

JL

Jon Lemmon Wed 21 Nov 2012 4:28AM

Just sorted out the permissions for ya @richard

RDB

Richard D. Bartlett Wed 21 Nov 2012 4:40AM

Agree with everything Paul :)

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