[post - published] Belgium is a particracy, not a democracy. Why is it bad and how do we solve it?

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Rework of the old post that said "What is wrong with our democracy". I start with "Belgium is a particracy" this time and tried to simplify a bit. The goal is to have a lot of links/references to other articles, ... (still need to check the articles of De Morgen, ...)

New pad: https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/Democracy2

First there is an introduction where we refer to the last press articles and the different solutions...

Then we take 3 perspectives on why our current "democracy" is wrong: leadership (book Authority of Paul Verhaeghe), the presentation of Paul Nollen and the participation ladder of Arnstein and "Against Elections" from David Van Reybrouck.

If you want to add another perspective, go ahead and the text can still use a lot of improvement also.



Thierry Fenasse Sun 15 Jan 2017 7:55PM

Nice initiative! I'll take some time to read the pad. :bath_tone2:


Josse Fri 17 Mar 2017 10:58PM

After the comment of Valérie, going to the congress of Democratie.nu, ... I hope to have a better flow now: http://piratepad.be/p/Democracy2


Josse Fri 17 Mar 2017 11:01PM

I could refer to Transparencia here also already. I would like to work out the latter paragraphs a bit tomorrow (with links, ... to Sarah, ....) and start translating.


Patrick Installé Sat 18 Mar 2017 6:17AM

Just fresh, Transparencia is now in Belgian dutch to :-)


Josse Fri 24 Mar 2017 11:26PM

I am splitting the article in Why it is bad and a second article will talk about the possible solutions. The first part, translation in Dutch is done, French is "working on it".


Josse Sun 26 Mar 2017 3:33PM

I translated the first part article in French, so @hgo, it would be nice if you or anybody else could already have a look at it. https://pad.pirateparty.be/p/Democracy2fr


HgO Wed 29 Mar 2017 6:32AM

I'll do that tomorrow! I had several meetings this week-end and couldn't work on it, and right now I must do my work for the uni. But tomorrow I'm free :) I'm not forgetting you, don't worry ;)


Renaud Van Eeckhout Tue 28 Mar 2017 12:13PM

There was on the Drupal website an article written by Marouan about a specific episode of particracy : when parties decided some years ago to increase their own public fundings. If there was a possibility to dig out this article, it would be great.

I think the article should start with describing what particracy means. It's obvious for us, maybe not for every citizen though.

For the elements of a democracy, I wished we would keep the elements that were in our statutes, to remain coherent, but the basic text has taken it over and now it's more confuse to describe democracy. Problem is : we will have different definitions of democracy every time we write a different article.


Thierry Fenasse Tue 28 Mar 2017 12:28PM

At a time where I did not have access to the DNS I did a duplicate of the Drupal on a personnal domain name. So you can search :


I kept a record of this drupal archiving on a piratelab pad.


Renaud Van Eeckhout Tue 28 Mar 2017 12:32PM

Merci @tierce ! Here is the article I mentionned : http://drupal.gnunation.net/?q=node/2062 (it's only in french, unfortunately).

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