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Mon 21 May 2018 10:20AM

A new, simpler & international model for Cobudget - proposal!

F Francesca Public Seen by 31

Hola everyone!

To follow up on the presentation I gave at the summit about Cobudget and a survey I did with you a few weeks ago (you can see the results here), I’d like to share with you my proposal for a new Cobudget model in written and get your ok1. for moving forward with it.

As I explained in Hvar, over the past months, @jefb , Katalina and I spent a lot of time trying to work out a new Cobudget process, that could enable us to tackle the following problems:

  1. Until now, there has been no one clear way how to get funds in your Cobudget account. We have had multiple different ways to get funds, depending on the country, which has lead to some administrative chaos because we were mixing different processes in one group.
  2. To do the administration accurately, each country would have to have their own Cobudget group, which would be quite ashame because that would create an articifical silos between countries
  3. Many people are doing work through / thanks to / related to Ouishare, but not invoicing through one of our legal entities, and have therefore not had an easy way to give back to the community. I think we have been losing a lot of potential give back because the process was not clear.

Therefore, I would like to propose a new Cobudget process that is identifical for everyone in Ouishare, no matter which country they are in and how they invoice their work.

Though this will of course also have some tradeoffs (because there is no perfect solution), I hope that this will simply the process significantly, enable us to tap into synergies across locations, enable people in more established communities to support the emerging ones, and help us collaborate more on projects.

In the long term, my hope is that this could even be a way for us to spend all our surplus in a very dynamic, organic way, instead of having heavy processes every few months to have to make these decisions.

The proposal

Here are a few slides that explain the new process in detail .

The very quick summary is:

  • From now on, all Cobudget funds sit in a separate bank account, for Cobudget only, run by the French Ouishare Foundation
  • funds can be paid in very easily as donations, with a credit card through the platform Helloasso here.
  • Helloasso will automatically generate tax-deductable donation receipts and send them to the donors

The trade-offs

To make sure you are aware of them, are the trade-offs of this model are:

  • tax deductions will probably only be possible for EU countries, and for some EU countries there will be some admin to get Ouishare added to the non-profit registry
  • for non-Euro countries, there will be transfer and exchange fees
  • since these are donations, we cannot give invoices
  • since the funds are being donated to a charitable organization, the projects we fund must be justifiable as serving the common good (they cannot be purely commercial). In many cases it will just come down to how we formulate our projects, and to make this more clear, I’ve made an overview of examples here.

Next steps

Please vote on whether you are ok with us trying this model for 6 months to see how it works.

If there is consent, we will clean up the current Cobudget funds and buckets with Spain and Germany, and share this model out to the broader community.

I’m also keen to discuss trying out the rounds model to create more engagement, since this would help us have a deadline for proposing and funding buckets.

I look forward to hopefull funding lots of buckets soon :)

F

Poll Created Mon 21 May 2018 10:21AM

I’m happy to try this new Cobudget model for the next 6 months. Closed Mon 28 May 2018 10:02AM

I am aware of the pros and cons of this model and think we should give this one a try.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 92.6% 25 DW AC JL SR JM DL KB CR LT EEO M DF TV DU ET AB J CC MW SE
Abstain 7.4% 2 PR A
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 46 JS BT BJM EG AJ AG AK SC MT LH TD P AM EM MAG J C JL AL MF

27 of 73 people have voted (36%)

TV

Taoufik Vallipuram
Agree
Mon 21 May 2018 10:26AM

As always with you @Francesca, it's very clear ! Let's go !!!!

MW

Martin Werlen
Agree
Mon 21 May 2018 10:29AM

Thank you for this work.
Of course, let's try !

AC

Albert Cañigueral
Agree
Mon 21 May 2018 10:36AM

Let s experiment :)

EEO

Ehab Elia - Ouishare
Agree
Mon 21 May 2018 11:19AM

Thank you so much @francesca for this amount of work and the engagement model you are playing :heart:

J

Jef-b
Agree
Mon 21 May 2018 10:09PM

So happy this comes to life ! #becreative

JPE

Juan Pablo Espinosa
Agree
Tue 22 May 2018 2:58AM

Interésting propose in special for new
Comunities

DU

[deactivated account]
Agree
Tue 22 May 2018 4:36AM

Excited to try it soon :) thank you for this huge work :)

DW

David Weingartner
Agree
Tue 22 May 2018 9:43AM

Thanks for the effort and the clear presentation in Hvar!

M

Maud
Agree
Tue 22 May 2018 10:11AM

Excited with this proposition, thanks for working on that Fran & Jefb and Kat !

SE

Sarah Eisenmann
Agree
Mon 28 May 2018 7:28AM

thanks Fran. It's pretty clear and worth trying.

SR

Samuel Roumeau Mon 21 May 2018 11:03AM

This is so great, thanks a lot Francesca for leading this ! I'm really looking forward to this experimentation.

A

Ana Fri 25 May 2018 3:06PM

I love the idea of trying out the Cobudget globally because I think if this works can be super powerfull.
But I recognize that I have my own brakes towards the way that it have being articulated from France without counting with the communitites that actually were been using it.
My main concern is that the Spanish community keeps their agility and the level of engagement with Cobudget as is beeing until now and it doesnt start to feel it like its something that doesnt belong to them anymore.

I will definetly keep pushing the Spanish community to keep using it as before.
So let´s try it !!

DV

de villepin Wed 30 May 2018 7:13AM

I'm late for the vote but I agree and thanks a lot @francesca to lead this common project!

MH

Manel Heredero Thu 7 Jun 2018 1:07PM

@francesca how are we going to proceed with this? Are we going to run a round of funding in a specific period of time?

F

Francesca Thu 7 Jun 2018 4:44PM

My suggestion would be that we run a 3 month round, starting now, to get lots of activity going :)

J

Jef-b Thu 7 Jun 2018 9:45PM

Can you tell @francesca the amount of donations you have got since Hvar ?

F

Francesca Wed 13 Jun 2018 9:19PM

Since then, we have a few contributions from Spain, which are stil part of their old model though (but still available to be allocated), as well as a contribution from @martinwerlen and myself :). We need to evangelise and spread the word about this step by step, because people won't have the reflex to think to contribute funds or put up ideas as buckets without some practice. In spain we have seen very well how after having done this for some time now, people are quite used to doing this!