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Thu 22 May 2025 5:25PM

Agreeing On The Internet: Protocols for Consent Online

AR Alex Rodriguez Public Seen by 175

As everyone knows, the internet is famous for the way its users miraculously and spontaneously agree on everything. In this digital town square, all of its virtual denizens are kind, deliberative, and deeply considerate of the nuances and context that inform one another's needs, preferences, goals, and values, leading to novel, creative solutions to the complex problems we all face on this shared habitat we call Planet Earth.

... haha, just kidding. Of course—tragically—the internet is famous for none of those things. For whatever it's worth, I've been enjoying this podcast from the writer and technologist Cory Doctorow on how and why things have gotten so bad.

But as we know here at social.coop, our online social lives don't have to be so bleak! Since joining this Mastodon instance as part of the wave of emigration from Twitter in 2022, I've come to better appreciate what is possible when cooperation informs how we organize online. To support these ongoing efforts, I'll be offering a free, three-hour online workshop on how to make decisions together on the internet, turning an ear towards how we can create little pockets that resist the tendency towards misunderstanding and misinformation that pervade what Doctorow calls the "enshittified" internet. The workshop will take place next Thursday, May 29, 2025 from 12-3pm EDT (16:00-19:00 UTC) via our meet.coop service.

If you're interested (whether or not you can make it at that time—I'll likely do something similar again soon!) simply fill out this very brief from and I'll follow up with the video call link. And if you know someone who might be, please forward the link:

Register for Agreeing On The Internet

As many of us have already experienced, it's hard to make a good, durable decision in a group trying to do something together online! My journey with this conundrum began in earnest about ten years ago, when I was organizing young meditators' groups in the Buddhist community I was part of at the time. Aware of the frustrations and limitations of trying to decide anything conclusively over an email thread or chat group, I started looking for software tools that would help make it easier—this led me to become an active user of Loomio with many groups I've worked with since in all kinds of contexts, from activist collectives to nonprofit boards; I've also implemented decision-making protocols in other project management software tools I've worked with like Trello and Basecamp. Since 2021, I've been training in a method called Sociocracy, which includes a specific approach to this known as "consent decision-making." In the workshop, we'll go over the basics of the approach and show how the protocol can be applied to a variety of online collaboration tools. My intention is that we can all come away with a better understanding of how to design consentful protocols for our own online collaboration wherever it arises.

I hope to see you there! (Again, just click here to let me know you're interested.) Feel free to leave a comment here or hit me up on Mastodon if you have any questions for me about the offering.

AU

Ana Ulin Thu 22 May 2025 6:24PM

It would be kind to keep this social.coop Loomio dedicated to social.coop governance and organizing, and free of unrelated PSAs and advertising.

KT

Kathe TB Fri 23 May 2025 12:02AM

Part of this came out of some conversations in Organizing Circle thinking about what trainings could be offered to help build capacity in social.coop. I know @Alex Rodriguez through Sociocracy for All and knew he was thinking of offering a training this summer. We talked and thought that social.coop would be a good audience for this and may have gotten ahead of the group here.

I suspect that @Ana Ulin is concerned about overloading this forum and I completely see the point here. However I would argue that this is related to social.coop governance. Organizing Circle is trying to figure out how to have better communication and conversations with the broader Loomio and Mastodon members of social.coop. Including what kinds of training would you like to see and what might be needed to build out more involvement in running the coop.

Thoughts?

AR

Alex Rodriguez Fri 23 May 2025 12:11AM

Hi @Ana Ulin, nice to see you here! For the sake of process transparency: I checked with@Matt Noyes and @Kathe TB from the Organizing Circle before posting here to make sure that this was in scope for Loomio and got a green light from the OC. Although this Loomio space hasn't been active recently, my hope was that this training could actually support ongoing (and much needed) conversation internally to this group about how we use this tool to govern social.coop. I've been here since 2022 and struck by the fact that there doesn't seem to be clarity as to how we use this space for governance and organizing. I hope that the folks from social.coop who attend the event will be able to bring some of the conversations and learnings back into this ongoing conversation, as well. I hope this context helps clarify how this workshop is related to social.coop governance and organizing.

KT

Kathe TB Fri 23 May 2025 12:17AM

I will point out that this was not formally put through Organizing Circle. Mostly because I thought it would be fine to just push as an offering to the collective. This was not the only message I got asking for more context however so there was something that got mis-matched here.