Parking, Vans and live in vehicles ****updated****

Thankyou for doing this Fran

Naa, dont know where £3 has come from

Just a thought... maybe we should encourage organisation of a bus to drop off and pick up from London to site, pick up points in-between

Are that many folk coming from London? Can we tell short of doing a poll?

Adding pick-up points unless its motorway service stations (which present access issues anyway for many) will get complicated. May be worthwhile if there's enough coming from London who'll organise/pre-commit to a bus though.

I have just updated this thread new information and a new suggestion with how we move forward, please read and comment.

The update sounds good to me (disclosure: I do not have a live in vehicle). Though there will be some vehicle Tetris, I think it would mean a lot less overall faffing if all vehicles could be left on site.

I agree! And I’m hoping we can wiggle all of us in with a bit of planning…50 vehicles is enough for pretty much 2 members per vehicle, and surely we can manage that as a minimum?!

I think that cramming cars in / rideshares should be fine, I know I am planning on coming by car with 4 people in total in it, obviously I can't speak for everyone else's travel plans but pushing people to team up seems like it should work?

I'm happy with your proposals - £20 van parking charge, money to pay for any overflow parking at MFP.

Selling live-in van passes will also let us know exactly how many vehicles we're dealing with & help us plan better. May be too much hassle but we could ask folk for info on size of vehicle at the same time.

I would suggest that if live-in vehicle parking pass money is not all spent (likely) rather than faffing about trying to return a proportion of it we just put it into the dreams pot to fund lovely things.

One of the jobs for build I suspect will be sorting out the parking spaces, & mapping/marking off so we know how we need to cram vans/cars in.

Incidentally you didn't mention in meeting about FC car park, is it a no go (need to feed the meter) or can we use it too?

Sorry Allan, you’re quite right!

The FC car park is indeed feed the meter, but the main problem is there are signs saying no overnight parking. I was going to try and contact them to see if we could arrange a longer term parking agreement, but when I mentioned this to site they said it was not a good idea- I think they don’t want to draw attention to the fact that they are booking larger parties in case the FC get a bit nosey which could lead to more restrictions….

That’s why I contacted Mabie Farm Park as a back up overflow.

I don't think you'd have had any luck with the FC or FLS, parking overnight on their sites has been an issue in the past & they're not keen on it. MFP seems a better option & if its only 2.5m its fairly close in any case.

Yeah, FC trialled overnight parking on some of their sites in Scotland last year, but seems they’ve scrapped the idea again…

Sounds great to me Sam, thanks for putting so much thought into this. My friend Katy will be bringing her campervan (hopefully using it to transport 3 of us and an art piece), posting on her behalf as she's unconscious with the lurgy at the moment

Hey all, I'm now conscious (lurgy still intact, sadly). I echo Ali - happy with your proposals, Sam, and very grateful for everyone's thoughts and work. I've just filled out the Site Space Enquiry as well.

It seems like quite a few of us (myself included) are coming in live in vehicles. We'll need to work out how to sign up for these spots and make sure we all fit.

We're doing a site visit on 6 March & assessing parking spaces & capacity is a big part of that. After site visit I expect we'll move quickly in publicising info & arranging details of parking.

There is also a google doc to fill in so we can try and get an idea of how many cars, vans and tents people are likely to bring

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdNnlOp9HjZ2jYB5S18NDznLUJGEIaaXYYKBOM6t-YQw632SQ/viewform

Hey all,

We've now got a more comprehensive questionnaire for everyone bringing a vehicle to Celtic Burn.

Please, if you are the DRIVER (if you're a passenger, hands off) of any vehicle coming to Celtic Burn, could you fill out this questionnaire. We have a limited amount of parking on site and need to know if we'll have enough space for live in vehicles and cars. If not, we have a back up plan with the neighbouring farm, but it needs to be in place before the event starts.

This is a new questionnaire so please complete it, even if you completed the previous survey on Loomio.

It's really important we get a clear picture beforehand of which vehicles will be arriving. There will be a parking team on site, locating the parking spots for arriving vehicles so we use the space best and most efficiently.

So once again, are you driving a vehicle to Celtic Burn? - please fill out this survey.

Thank you.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdEOc46EuBXLfwSM3leWo7VXeS47fJexfTcDRJ8LPZ9Oo0EKg/viewform?usp=sf_link

Can this thread be closed or is it ongoing?

I think we should leave it open in case anyone stumbled into loomio and hasn’t relied to the questionnaire

Does anyone know if the results of the questionnaire will be shared soon? I'd love to get an idea of whether I might be able to be on the main site with my live-in van. I have fairly severe coeliac disease and so have to be incredibly careful with what I eat, making shared cooking and eating pretty challenging...would be a huge help if I can have my lil kitchen with me and not need to leave site to get me meals! Any thoughts/updates would be much appreciated x

All live in vehicles will be prioritised so that everyone can actually stay on site. The results are not in yet, only 24people have responded so far…

I wasn't planning on sharing the 'results' as much as using them to inform what we do. As Sam says live-in vehicles will be prioritised so everyone can stay on site. If necessary we may need to put some non-live in vans & cars at an off-site location, but we're hoping to avoid this.

If you're keen on knowing the details or joining the parking crew (we'll need folk on-site to direct vehicles & get them all parked right & ensure early departures aren't blocked in) check out the trello card 'Handle parking'. If you're particularly interested I give a breakdown of the questionnaire results to date.

I intend to ride over on a motorbike. Shall I fill in the parking questionnaire too? I'm just afraid I'd cause a false positive for a car space.

Go ahead and fill it in, it caters for motorbikes too.

Oh, sorry. I didn't realise it had a second page. It's filled in now.

Thanks for your responses, Allan and Sam, most helpful. I hadn't found my way to that Trello card yet, sorry about that! See you all soon x