Emails @openmandriva
Hi all
Do we agree, that email addresses @openmandriva.org could be given to any member, who requests this?
(limited volume, subject to availability, by getting the address member agrees to usage of email address strictly for good of OMA, in accordancy with general member and website rules).
Raphaël Jadot
Mon 10 Jun 2013 12:46PM
I guess it's too soon for being able to manage it, but it make sense to give an @openmandriva.org address to member as a membership gift, after membership as been clearly defined and organized.
Chris Tanner
Wed 12 Jun 2013 5:34PM
I agree that they should only be given out if needed. To be decided by the TC.
Raphaël Jadot Mon 10 Jun 2013 12:47PM
I guess rather than a mailbox, we could offer an alias.
jclvanier Mon 10 Jun 2013 4:36PM
I see that all of us (included me) agree not to give an address without restriction.
And I also think that this question comes too early mainly because we must specify the conditions of use.
However, I don't see very well why every member of the association could not have an address if some of us have one. Because, according to our statutes, a member is someone who contributes.
For me, it is everybody or nobody and it is hard to say nobody ...
Wayne Sallee Mon 10 Jun 2013 4:45PM
We have been easy on people getting membership. I think it’s too early.
One idea to toss around is at a later date possibly create some kind of e-mail address for members that would be obviously less-official, like myname@om-member.openmandriva.org.
That’s not the best example, but you get the point. but if we should decide to do that, it should be done at a later date.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
rugyada Mon 10 Jun 2013 6:10PM
Or myname@openmandriva.org to all members and myname@openmandriva.com for people when representing OMA ?
Kate Lebedeff Mon 10 Jun 2013 7:58PM
Well, what if we rephrase it so: for the moment we agree, that active team members (that ARE members of OMA), could be given an alias (@openmandriva.org). The number of these emails is limited and alias is given to those, who could/would represent OMA to the outside world (this alias starts working as a promotion tool). Final decision stays with council. Those members, who feel need for such alias, please address Council.
Yes?
Kate Lebedeff Mon 10 Jun 2013 8:00PM
(in the future (or straight away, now) we could indeed differentiate it: @openmandriva.org is for representation of OMA, @member.openmandriva.org for members )
Kate Lebedeff Wed 12 Jun 2013 5:23PM
Discussion will be taken to next council meeting (Thursday 20th June, 14.00 UTC for final decision). Thanks everybody for supplying opinions.
Wayne Sallee Fri 14 Jun 2013 4:17PM
If in the future we were to decide to give all members an e-mail address, we would not want to use openmandriva.com verses openmandriva.org. This would not be sufficient difference and would cause confusion. Furthermore we should only use openmandriva.org, and redirect openmandriva.com to openmandriva.org, as we need consistency.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Poll Created Thu 20 Jun 2013 6:16PM
New proposal of organization related to @openmandriva.org email addresses. Closed Sun 23 Jun 2013 4:00PM
We agreed on the fact to use aliases for personal address. However, having automatically an email address did not get full agreement.
Hello,
Here is a new proposal, after discussion at council meeting :
- There are two kind of email addresses we can create : ** one kind is the addresses related to a function or role, such as "council@openmandriva.org" or even "abuse@openmandriva.org", "webmaster@openmandriva.org". It should be hosted on our infra with people related having access to it. ** Other kind are personal addresses such as mscott@openmandriva.org , that should not be hosted to our infra but given as an alias.
The process is simple : we will gather each weeks all demands (membership, email address, maybe being moderator - other proposal to check - ) and discuss about it in council ml. That's to say the council will say who will have or not a email address.
There will not be an official announce such as "hey, do you know that you can ask for an email address @openmandriva.org" but rather a elaborate kind of kit of member, in wiki or doc, explaining in details all possibilities given to members.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 75.0% | 6 |
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| Abstain | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 25.0% | 2 |
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| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 58 |
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8 of 66 people have participated (12%)
Raphaël Jadot
Thu 20 Jun 2013 6:19PM
I think it's technically not a problem to give an email alias, contrary to hosting a full mailbox with quotas, anti spam etc.
The fact the council discuss before accepting seems good at this point of our asso life.
Robert Xu
Thu 20 Jun 2013 7:54PM
Council can decide. The how MUST be discussed later.
Diogo Travassos
Thu 20 Jun 2013 8:56PM
Maybe in the future could use this public email as account for an api integration and synchronization for OpenMandriva's products .
Marco Antonio Benatto
Thu 20 Jun 2013 10:09PM
Good idea let council decide who will get @openmandriva.org email's. It can avoid kind of irregular use by any bad-intentioned parts (not saying it will happen if it's open to everyone, but it always is a possibility)
João Azevedo Patrício
Fri 21 Jun 2013 8:32AM
I disagree on that for now. That's not, imho, a good start but a nice ending. I prefer to set that: - Council members, team leaders, OMG leaders, UD, and all that represent OMA can have a OMA address. Council based on that gives e-mail.
Chris Tanner
Fri 21 Jun 2013 7:53PM
I agree with those who say that Council must decide what e-mails are setup and who gets them
Anurag Bhandari
Sat 22 Jun 2013 5:00AM
I disagree for reasons mentioned by Joao. An @openmandriva.org address identifies a person as a trusted part of OMA. IMO, such an address should be "earned" rather than applied for. I would like to add TC members to the list of groups Joao mentioned.
Raphaël Jadot Thu 20 Jun 2013 6:18PM
about the proposal "New proposal of organization" :
If you disagree one of the points, please explain which one, so that even if we don't accept the full proposal, we can see on which point we must have more discussions :)
Robert Xu Thu 20 Jun 2013 6:40PM
Council will discuss, yes - but what is their criteria?
There seems to be no plan on how to determine who gets on and who doesn't.
Raphaël Jadot Thu 20 Jun 2013 7:26PM
@robertxu I agree, I thought about making a second proposal on this such as all accepted by default unless we have one people against.
If we have someone against, we discuss, and if needed we vote or any other solution.
Before knowing how we will discuss, we first need to agree on principle that the decision belong to council. For me yes, because it's more a governance topic than a development one. WDYT?
Robert Xu Thu 20 Jun 2013 7:53PM
@raphaeljadot ok - after this proposal, definitely need to discuss how.
João Azevedo Patrício Fri 21 Jun 2013 8:35AM
this continues the voting idea (not enough characters): so the council should elaborate the rules. No one should "apply" to have a e-mail, should be council that based on those rules (simple one "representing" OMA) and attribute the e-mail itself to the person. Best
Raphaël Jadot Fri 21 Jun 2013 9:14AM
@joaoazevedopatricio1 I understand your disagreement on the second part (the process) do you agree on the fact that nominative addresses are not hosted, but only aliases?
Anurag Bhandari Sat 22 Jun 2013 5:03AM
I stand by my argument even if email addresses are going to be aliases to mailboxes hosted somewhere else. I think this is more of a non-technical matter than a technical one.
João Azevedo Patrício Sat 22 Jun 2013 8:14AM
@raphaeljadot I agree that the mails are aliases. But I believe that is not the real problem, aliases or not the important is that an e-mail is a institutional thing, therefor my and @anuragbhandari arguments.
Kate Lebedeff · Fri 7 Jun 2013 11:58PM
Wayne, what would be the criteria to give or not give address to a member? If the person is a member, we assume he is trusted, right?