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Mandate WorkAround Jedlet

MK Michaela Kennedy Public Seen by 44

This is our first meeting for the Mandate WorkAround Jedlet, our focus is on finding out what is happening with the Covid Vaccine Mandates (facts and grey areas) and how we can support our win / win strategy within Jeder that supports people's choice and control over their own health matters.

This is not a conversation about whether the Mandates are right or wrong.

If you are interested in the conversation it is on Wednesday, 18 May 2022 from 9:00 am to 10:00 am on MS Teams.

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Julie Anne Carrington Thu 26 May 2022 12:48AM

I have sat to write many times and find myself hesitating, even now as I type I am hesitating. When I have spoken out there was no open conversation, no deep listening practice, it was a one sided narrative with a clear and ridged line in the sand. It is a challenging conversation based on control and fear, may I suggest that Jeder the co-creators of change could perhaps seek some other advice/direction/alternatives.

MK

Michaela Kennedy Sun 15 May 2022 7:45AM

I disagree with the endorsement, any group of members can form a Jedlet to discuss anything, why should it need to be endorsed. Decisions to be made is a different thing.

DB

Dee Brooks Sat 14 May 2022 1:07AM

I agree, Lynn! My only comments have been about process; a Jedlet is a piece of work that is identified, endorsed and developed by a Jedi and ALL of this discussion should have happened at the Risk Jedi before announcing anything... which is why I commented about "creating the conditions for success" and used another Jedlet as an example! Yes, it's another process glitch which needs strengthening...

LL

Lynn Lennon Fri 13 May 2022 9:16AM

I've gone to respond to this thread on several occasions, and stopped...why? Because I felt that there were some strong opinions being voiced, often with dis-respectful language towards others opinions/thoughts so figured why would I stick my head up only to be shot down.

If we aren't able to have respectful, open and transparent conversations with each other (no matter what the topic) then I fear we will create a culture where many will simply stay silent.

I always believed that within Jeder if you had a passion, interest, thought, etc on anything relating to Jeder we were able to call a Jedi/Jedlet, etc to discuss further to then decide where to next.

After reading through this thread, again, I believe others are not wanting to step into this space for fear of being questioned in an inappropriate way, instead of through constructive discussions.

I'm actually pretty disappointed in much of this thread, it does not align with Jeder's pillars. Where is our generosity of spirit in this thread, when did we decide that we would no longer be co-creators of change, why is it that a group of people who want to self organize themselves around a discussion are being scrutinized so minutely, and since when did we stop being participatory leaders.

Oh and just for the record I am vaccinated, so my comments are not in relation to this Jedlet being formed, the discussions that may or may not take place, but simply in my thoughts and feelings around the discomfort that this conversation has caused and they way that members have approached this.

I believe as a whole we can all do a lot better 🙂

MK

Michaela Kennedy Sun 15 May 2022 5:31AM

Thanks Aleks, love this - funny flying a kite in Victoria is still illegal. So no-one in Victoria fly's a kite, hmmmm. LOL

AJ

Aleks Jovanovic Fri 13 May 2022 3:11AM

Thinking about minority groups: I can't help but think about the question: "Just because it's legal, does that make it right". Thought the readers of this post may find these laws interesting: 40 Unusual Laws in History (historycollection.com)

AJ

Aleks Jovanovic Fri 13 May 2022 2:56AM

I've just read through all comments in this thread. I'm still keen to hear different views from my own before I comment with any confidence. 🙂 "Be a realist, dream the impossible" - Che Guevara

MK

Michaela Kennedy Fri 13 May 2022 2:47AM

Thanks Aleks, we'll keep everyone informed about where it goes to from here.

AJ

Aleks Jovanovic Fri 13 May 2022 12:27AM

Thanks Mic, I'm interested in being involved in this discussion. I like "This is not a conversation about whether the Mandates are right or wrong.' Unfortunatelly, I'm busy on Wednesday morning.

MK

Michaela Kennedy Mon 16 May 2022 1:25AM

Appreciate you saving comments for the Jedlet, thank you.

I disagree about you and other contributions being respectful, they certainly made me feel disrespected for my perspective and uncomfortable in sharing my views. I am well aware that the conversations here are one sided that is the reason for starting this Jedlet so 'we' can get some purpose and pieces of work going as I don't feel these perspectives are well represented in other areas of Jeder.

I hope you have the clarity you seek and look forward to further discussions.

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