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Mandate WorkAround Jedlet

MK Michaela Kennedy Public Seen by 44

This is our first meeting for the Mandate WorkAround Jedlet, our focus is on finding out what is happening with the Covid Vaccine Mandates (facts and grey areas) and how we can support our win / win strategy within Jeder that supports people's choice and control over their own health matters.

This is not a conversation about whether the Mandates are right or wrong.

If you are interested in the conversation it is on Wednesday, 18 May 2022 from 9:00 am to 10:00 am on MS Teams.

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KH

Kaeleen Hunter Wed 1 Jun 2022 3:32AM

great doc Marty - i too have been pondering this..........especially the silence as compliance.

JE

Jason Emmins Tue 31 May 2022 10:28PM

Thanks Marty,

Some good points to ponder. Looking forward to this morning's discussion.

DU

Tue 31 May 2022 12:07AM

Hi I have uploaded attached document to the work around the mandate Jedlet Risk Jedi 2022 folder

MK

Michaela Kennedy Thu 19 May 2022 1:07AM

It was decided that another meeting was required to define the purpose of this Jedlet. For those that came, you will receive a calendar invite. If anyone else wants to join, please join here or let me know and I will add you in.

Wednesday 01.06.2022 at 9am

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LZ

Lisa Zulfiqar Tue 17 May 2022 10:42AM

@Kerri-Anne Hawkins this is the one we discussed

KD

Kelly Dines Tue 17 May 2022 8:29AM

Unfortunately I am unable to attend this session as I would be interested in hearing and discussing this matter. However I would like to add my take on this. I am totally for personal choice on the vaccination issue and respect each individuals decision. And if through exploration and discussion possible resolution and/or outcomes which ensures that Jeder and/or any member are not at risk of facing any legal or ethical repercussion while still supporting the rights of those who choose not to vaccinate then isn't that a win - win for all.

DU

Mon 16 May 2022 12:56PM

I agree that we should all be kind, respectful, and compassionate to each others different view points.

LZ

Lisa Zulfiqar Sun 15 May 2022 1:15AM

Thanks Lynn and Alex for summing up what I have struggled to put down. We need to be open to varies options / choices, that is the Jeder way.

DU

Fri 13 May 2022 9:38AM

Also, there's nothing like an infectious disease to get us all worked up and divided. Check out Parasite Stress Theory. Longitudinal studies about the impact on societal values correlating to infectious disease rates: The more infectious diseases prevalent in a society, the more conservative values, more fear of 'foreign' or 'other', more 'in-group/dominant group' alignment, more extreme positions. It's a minefield. I agree with Lynn that we need to be gentle and considerate of each other's world views whilst we navigate this.

DU

Fri 13 May 2022 9:26AM

I like your thinking Aleks. Legal doesn't always mean moral or right. But we somehow need to find a way to be human-centred for our members and our participants whilst not copping any fines 'from above' due to a top heavy mandate. A really tough one. I'm 100% pro choice in this matter and the mandate unfortunately takes choice away. Weirdly the current death rate in Australia due to Covid is 0.2% - that's encompassing all demographics - the most vulnerable and the least vulnerable. The vax doesn't stop infection or transmission, and now the NSW Public Health orders (don't know about other states) say that if a family member has an active Covid infection, you don't need to isolate. You can go out and spread it around??!! No protection for vulnerable community members there.

So as far as I see it the vax is a personal decision to reduce the risk of developing severe disease for oneself. If this virus was more deadly, I'd understand a top heavy mandate. Currently this mandated vax takes personal choice away and the accompanying public health orders don't reflect care for the community at large. I just don't understand the juxtaposition between a mandated vaccination 'to protect the community' and public health orders changing to allow easy transmission. Rules aren't always supportive of our communities. Maybe we need to question this.

Bottom line - Pro choice and a human centred approach are in line with Jeder principals. That's why I'm here. Would we follow anything just because it was 'mandated?' But we also need to protect our org from top heavy fines. So tough.

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