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Getting the World's Attention on August 1.

S Sea Public Seen by 26

Let our media campaign and our strategic planning attract the attention of the whole world upon a big, carefully planned, day of non-violent protest for Friday August 1.

CG

Cathy Grahnert Tue 27 May 2014 7:50PM

Not to be a killjoy, but this would take a lot of work, and not that many people would turnout. Do we want to look weak when it is seen how we cannot get the crowds out?

S

Sea Tue 27 May 2014 11:25PM

I recognize that this "Getting the World's Attention" business takes Sacramento by surprise because strong members of our GA, as well as Brother Carter, are not on Loomio. Also, not all could participate in some discussions that happened during our successful Three Days of Rage Against Monsanto which just concluded.

The strategy and tactics are complicated. As witnessed by the way I felt I had to explain in detail the difference between the letters to officials vs the press releases. The latter being about the former. About the reaction of both the officials and the press, both reacting to what happens in either domain.

I agree with Lisa and think Cathy may be overly pessimistic, perhaps because its hard to read all the encouraging stuff being posted on Loomio, and the encouraging stuff from other domains, which are hard to find. :-(

Still, its highly excellent that Cathy in particular is speaking out. A strong person who has important responsibilities that keep her from our GA. :-(
Lisa left for a month and a big hole was felt in Sacramento, which is now filling in. :-)
However neither Cathy's or Lisa's voices and ideas fail to influence how our press person handles things. I can assure all of Occupy that the GA thinks of them even when they aren't there, although Lisa usually is, as she doesn't have the same responsibilities Cathy has. :-)

Anyone for creating a Women's Council? Slightly different than a Fem GA. You can't imagine the trouble I felt I got in, in 2012, when I proposed the same idea.

C

Cal Tue 27 May 2014 11:52PM

The Workshop/Speakers/Structure working group is trying to sort out which days are "big days" and which days are people-driven session days. IMO, it would be nice if we could have two consecutive days (Friday and Saturday?) for sessions and have the first and last days (Thursday and Sunday) be the special/big days.

Why Friday?

SG

Sally G Wed 28 May 2014 12:24AM

Or are there big events and open sessions on each day?

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Tricia Wed 28 May 2014 5:29PM

Folks in Occupy Sacramento have plans that need to be heard. Let's give those on the ground deference, as they know their city and activists. They are working hard under pressure.

Let's first do no harm.

SG

Sally G Thu 29 May 2014 1:03PM

This proposal was started by Sea, whom I believe is a Sacramentoan.

T

Tricia Thu 29 May 2014 6:48PM

Has this plan passed the Occupy Sacramento GA or is this autonomous?

S

Sea Thu 29 May 2014 7:56PM

Good question. Here's what I thought was happening. The OS GA literally and physically can't approve everything the NatGat planning group arranges. And vice-versa, The stuff called local logistics and event and location matrix, literally and physically can't be 100% in sync with the speakers program working group.

I did say that regardless of any plans, finalized or tentative, autonomous or consensual, that it was my experience that the State Police and the City Police -- because we will already be putting so much on their table -- will likely tolerate much autonomous and spontaneous random protest, sign-holding, marching, chanting, impromptu sit-ins and general redress of grievances. I could certainly be wrong about the latter. However I did do Security in 2011 and 2012 and will do it this summer. And obviously (correct me if I'm wrong) won't our Security team work under a flexible mandate? Further, the Safety Team that I hope Cal is part of, and Bradley from Barstow volunteered for, will enhance both planned concerns and unforeseen concerns.

Isn't it the case that our discussion of how we make decisions and the use of the Block, seemed to result in there always being wiggle-room. I believe Tricia said that finally, it could only develop organically, when she thought I was trying to "micro-manage". That would also have indicated some autonomy by individuals viz-a-viz OS GA finalized decisions and NatGat planning group finalized decisions. Thank you NikiV.

The Getting the World's Attention business came out of the third day of our Rage Against Monsanto, when I was able to talk to an Occupy "Black Team" that does security with radios and first-aid and other important stuff. There was also an influential person there who may not have joined our discussion here yet, who can be considered a veteran expert on how to do civil-disobedience.

I also thought it was shaping up that the First and Last days were gelling. The issue it seemed was how, during California's Stage-2 Drought, we could make a splash. :-) Certainly no Occupier would not want what we are doing to not be the "shot" heard round the world.

So, yes and no. The "Big Day" will be eventually approved by the OS GA and the NatGat group. However even then, organic is as organic does. I think Lisa from Sac said that she approved of the concept in general, but would like to hold in abeyance whether we "Get the World's Attention" on Fri or Sat.

Finally, the Sacramento GA follows Occupy Wall St hand-signal and Blocking rules. Unless it is deemed an "emergency", passing proposals take two weeks because we only meet every other Sat. OS GA makes few but decisive, and sometimes autonomous decisions. In 2011, April Junio got a motion through the GA, which said that persons could, indeed, act in the name of Occupy, without official approval, because we work on the basis of trust.

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Sea Fri 30 May 2014 5:13AM

This is a good discussion, however I hope people will vote on the two proposals that Help Cres Focus the World's Attention, cause they are specific. Sorry.

Maybe Tricia can close this as a proposal and leave it as a good discussioin about either of Helping Cres discussions.

S

Sea Fri 30 May 2014 5:17AM

Please don't compound the mistakes I made here. Please don't vote on this discussion. Please vote on the Cres discussions. There you get a choice to vote directly for either Aug 1 Friday, or Aug 2 Saturday.

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