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Constitution amendment: allow voting rights to any nationality

PP Pirate Praveen Public Seen by 293

Change,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

to,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member
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Poll Created Fri 27 Nov 2015 5:20AM

allow any nationality voting rights Closed Mon 30 Nov 2015 4:37AM

Outcome
by Balasankar C Tue 25 Apr 2017 5:41AM

We will have to discuss this again.

Change,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

to,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 33.3% 1 PP
Abstain 33.3% 1 A
Disagree 33.3% 1 BC
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 5 AA B FF V AJ

3 of 8 people have voted (37%)

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Pirate Praveen
Agree
Fri 27 Nov 2015 5:21AM

People like vik should get voting rights

BC

Balasankar C Fri 27 Nov 2015 7:29AM

I still stand with my initial opinion.

"Even though I would go with the decision of the group, I suggest to include
* Indians - Living in India or Abroad
* Non-Indians - Living in India

I don't see (yet) how Non-Indians who doesn't live in India can understand our situation.
"

BC

Balasankar C Fri 27 Nov 2015 7:31AM

I believe my proposition makes Vik eligible for inclusion. Right?

A

Akshay Sun 29 Nov 2015 6:03AM

I'll just reiterate my stance here

Everything need not be put to vote. And everyone need not become members. There needs to be some kind of a membership that allows one to participate and there needs to be some kind of a consensus building system that allows decisions to be made irrespective of the number of people in support/opposition.

I'm not in a position to think about and propose such an amendment right now.

And I can't quite figure out which side to take on this amendment either.

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Pirate Praveen Mon 30 Nov 2015 9:25AM

@balasankarchelamat do you think non Indian who don't live in India will get voting rights without significant contribution/acceptance by at least two members? Isn't the support from two members criteria enough to stop anyone who is not contributing significantly from getting voting rights?

BC

Balasankar C Mon 30 Nov 2015 9:29AM

Then why do we need an amendment?

"Anyone" doesn't have any filters. Why should we explicitly say "(any nationality)" ?

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Pirate Praveen Mon 30 Nov 2015 10:31AM

@balasankarchelamat because I never thought about it when I wrote it. I assumed only Indians would want to join "Indian Pirates". So we have to clarify and remove any confusion.

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Balasankar C Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:25AM

But, we never told "only Indians". Anyway, I agree with your point now. Can you re-do the poll?

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Poll Created Mon 30 Nov 2015 1:20PM

allow any nationality voting rights Closed Thu 3 Dec 2015 12:37PM

[Redoing the poll]

Change,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

to,

Article 2: Rights

Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member

Note: Since associate member needs support from 2 permanent members, I think it is enough to ensure only significant contributors get voting rights.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 2 PP BC
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 6 AA B A FF V AJ

2 of 8 people have voted (25%)

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Pirate Praveen Sun 6 Dec 2015 9:16AM

@akshay can you update website?

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Akshay Sun 6 Dec 2015 12:27PM

I'll take one month to update. (Exams)

Anyone else interested? Edit the file in https://gitlab.com/piratemovin/website/tree/master

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Pirate Praveen Thu 21 Jan 2016 4:41PM

@akshay can you update now :)

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Akshay Thu 21 Jan 2016 4:51PM

Yes. Shall be done tomorrow.

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Akshay Sat 23 Jan 2016 2:29PM

I've changed the reveal.js slideshow to include the change but the PDF file is unchanged.

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Pirate Praveen Sat 23 Jan 2016 2:46PM

@akshay PDF is generated by just printing the slideshow as PDF from browser.