Constitution amendment: allow voting rights to any nationality
Pirate Praveen
Fri 27 Nov 2015 5:19AM
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Change,
Article 2: Rights
Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member
to,
Article 2: Rights
Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member
allow any nationality voting rights
proposal by Pirate Praveen Closed Mon 30 Nov 2015 4:37AM
We will have to discuss this again.
Change,
Article 2: Rights
Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member
to,
Article 2: Rights
Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
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Agree | 1 | 33 | 13 |
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| Abstain | 1 | 33 | 13 |
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| Disagree | 1 | 33 | 13 |
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| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 5 | 63 |
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3 of 8 votes cast (37% participation)
Pirate Praveen
Fri 27 Nov 2015 5:21AM
People like vik should get voting rights
Balasankar C Fri 27 Nov 2015 7:31AM
I believe my proposition makes Vik eligible for inclusion. Right?
Akshay Sun 29 Nov 2015 6:03AM
I'll just reiterate my stance here
Everything need not be put to vote. And everyone need not become members. There needs to be some kind of a membership that allows one to participate and there needs to be some kind of a consensus building system that allows decisions to be made irrespective of the number of people in support/opposition.
I'm not in a position to think about and propose such an amendment right now.
And I can't quite figure out which side to take on this amendment either.
Pirate Praveen Mon 30 Nov 2015 9:25AM
@balasankarchelamat do you think non Indian who don't live in India will get voting rights without significant contribution/acceptance by at least two members? Isn't the support from two members criteria enough to stop anyone who is not contributing significantly from getting voting rights?
Balasankar C Mon 30 Nov 2015 9:29AM
Then why do we need an amendment?
"Anyone" doesn't have any filters. Why should we explicitly say "(any nationality)" ?
Pirate Praveen Mon 30 Nov 2015 10:31AM
@balasankarchelamat because I never thought about it when I wrote it. I assumed only Indians would want to join "Indian Pirates". So we have to clarify and remove any confusion.
Balasankar C Mon 30 Nov 2015 11:25AM
But, we never told "only Indians". Anyway, I agree with your point now. Can you re-do the poll?
allow any nationality voting rights
proposal by Pirate Praveen Closed Thu 3 Dec 2015 12:37PM
[Redoing the poll]
Change,
Article 2: Rights
Section 1: Anyone supporting our basic principle can be an associate member
to,
Article 2: Rights
Section 1: Anyone (any nationality) supporting our basic principle can be an associate member
Note: Since associate member needs support from 2 permanent members, I think it is enough to ensure only significant contributors get voting rights.
Results
| Results | Option | Votes | % of votes cast | % of eligible voters | |
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Agree | 2 | 100 | 25 |
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| Abstain | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Block | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 6 | 75 |
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2 of 8 votes cast (25% participation)
Balasankar C · Fri 27 Nov 2015 7:29AM
I still stand with my initial opinion.
"Even though I would go with the decision of the group, I suggest to include
* Indians - Living in India or Abroad
* Non-Indians - Living in India
I don't see (yet) how Non-Indians who doesn't live in India can understand our situation.
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