Sweetbridge

Hi @draft R: the topics -- including the hard-to-grasp complexity of supply chains -- are of paramount importance in any attempt to redesign our economy, to reframe it, or even to revise it, and, well, very very hard to grasp in all but a superficial way. When someone of the intellectual ability of Vinay is having that kind of "wow" moment, you know it must be pretty mind-boggling -- as indeed is written in the introduction.

I've heard differing opinions about the exact significance and place of blockchain technology in this. But what is clear to me is that blockchain -- or collaborative ledger if you like -- needs to find the right role as a service for what we collectively want to do, and not to be seen as a magic silver bullet.

I'd like to declare an interest in re-envisioning what has been called the "supply chain" as a whole. As Scott Nelson says near the start of the video, its topology is not a chain, but a network, and I'd love to hear a new term for what it is that we are trying to re-envision.

Clearly, blockchain is just a tool, and as any tool it can be used for a lot of different things. I agree we need to find the good fonction of this tool ! :D

Here are my comments from an email discussion of Sweetbridge:

Nelson "was the founder of Trax, a global logistics analytics and freight audit & payment firm", according to https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-nelson-46025b73/

So he knows whereof he speaks. But his deep experience is in the logistics and payments, not the actual production and provision of goods and services.

Theirs is to some extent the same idea as Bill McCarthy's global semantic accounting system, which he and Jake Knoppers are pitching to the ISO blockchain committee in November.

But I wonder if these guys understand how to build the accounting system as well as Bill does...

Except that they seem to be doing everything in terms of money. All about the money. Not much about the actual goods and services, except as assets backing the money. Not much about carrying capacity, except I know Gupta understands carrying capacity.

And all using capitalist relations, except there's a nod at mutual credit...which might prove Christian Siefke''s point about mutual credit being compatible with capitalism.

They also nod a bit at star trek economics, but that system did not use money. https://www.wired.com/2016/05/geeks-guide-star-trek-economics/

The problem with developing supply chain systems using capitalist relations is that those relations defeat the health of the whole ecosystem, as you can read in https://www.academia.edu/10252910/The_uneasy_transition_from_supply_chains_to_ecosystems_The_value-creation_value-capture_dilemma

@asimong - that's what @lynnfoster and I are up too, also, and why we are interested in an open app ecosystem as an infrastructure for economic networks.

Here's a newish thought experiment along those lines: A minimal bottom-up P2P economic system that goes along with this previous one Supply chain signals for a mutual coordination economy.

Thank you for your answer :) I think it would be great to talk about it when I'll come visit you, what do you think ? :D

Sure.