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Sat 10 Mar 2018 9:07PM

Houselessness Community Forum (Tentatively 4/8)

JO Jonathan Ogden Public Seen by 435

THIS IS A DOT POLL | USE ALL OF THE 15 POINTS TO RANK OPTIONS

Given the amount of commotion around the resolution asking for a stop to, and alternative solution to, "sweeps" from the city police dept. it is obvious that this is a very important topic at this moment in economic history.

Sweeps do not solve the root issue of providing pathways to autonomous reintegration with society by providing low-barrier services, they simply add to the chaotic nature of living on the streets in a way that can be life-threatening (especially if a person's medications are confiscated and they can't make it all the way downtown to collect them fast enough).

It has also been deemed unconstitutional in quite a few cases: https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/10/13/24620200/doj-seattle-encampment-sweeps-legislation-recognizes-homeless-peoples-rights-must-be-respected

Across the country, displacement is on the rise, and with it comes a more precarious existence for many people, especially those who aren't able to cope with change easily, whether for financial, physical, or mental health reasons; the end result is the same: no good choices and a slide towards an early death.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/america-homeless-population-2017-official-count-crisis

This winter there was a great showing of community in Montavilla through the excellent network of neighbors that supported the Montavilla Emergency Warming Shelter. This dealt with the topic of crisis support by guaranteeing people two hot meals and a warm bed during bouts of freezing or inclement weather.
https://www.facebook.com/MontavillaEmergencyWarmingShelter/

What other topics, regarding livability, services, and programs, should be a part of the discussion around this issue in Montavilla for the upcoming event (tentatively scheduled 4/8)?

Please add/vote on options here: https://www.loomio.org/p/4PQ8Od09/houselessness-forum-topic-proposals

JO

Poll Created Sat 10 Mar 2018 11:34PM

Houselessness Forum Topic Proposals Closed Sun 1 Apr 2018 6:02AM

Outcome
by Jonathan Ogden Mon 2 Apr 2018 5:57PM

Excellent feedback from the community!

The top 5 highest ranked topics will become the main headings, all other topics will be organized into those categories (nothing will be omitted).

The new date has been pushed till the beginning of May but that gives ample time for the participants to prepare their materials (as they had requested). We look forward to seeing you!

Hey there, tentatively there is going to (finally) be a community forum event to discuss how to deal with the issue of our neighbors remaining un-housed, as well as what the effects of that are for us as a community and also how this relates to the national trend that we're seeing across this country.

Please submit suggestions below (you can add options), I'll include some topics that have already been discussed but want good input from all of the MNA members.

Results

Results Option % of points Points Mean Voters
Lack of low-barrier temporary housing 10.8% 36 1.2 30 DL A DJ A SMO WW AR SM R CL L KG J ST O S
Theft and how to deal with it 10.8% 36 1.2 30 AR EM DU JW WW MS SM M CL KG J C AG K J DU
What causes displacement 9.3% 31 1.0 30 DL AR A DJ EM AR M R KG ST O S
Lack of mental health services 9.0% 30 1.0 30 DL A DJ A SMO EM WW AR MS M CL P KG J ST AG S DU
Who are our houseless neighbors 7.5% 25 0.8 30 DL AR A EM WW AR M R L KG O S
Hazardous waste disposal 6.3% 21 0.7 30 AR EM DU JW MS SM R P L J O K J DU
Trash 6.0% 20 1.1 19 AR DU JW MS SM R CL J C K J DU
Comfort and safety using sidewalks and bike paths 5.4% 18 0.9 19 AR JW MS SM R CL J C K J DU
Trespassing 5.1% 17 0.9 19 DU JW MS SM J C K J DU
RVs in the neighborhood 4.8% 16 0.5 30 AR JW MS SM M J C AG K J DU
Food resources and how we can help 4.8% 16 0.8 21 DL A A SMO SM R CL O S
What does community healthcare look like 4.5% 15 0.5 30 AR DJ A SMO WW M R CL P KG ST S
Leadership support from JOIN staff and community members 4.2% 14 0.5 30 DL AR A SMO KP AR R P L KG C S
Bridging the gap between housed & houseless neighbors 2.1% 7 0.9 8 JO AR R
Would Montavilla support an organized tiny home village? 1.8% 6 0.8 8 JO A R CL
How can the community support existing initiatives in Montavilla 1.8% 6 0.8 8 JO AR A R DU
Impact of multiple camp sites 1.8% 6 0.8 8 JO JW R J
Empathizing with differing viewpoints 1.8% 6 0.8 8 JO AR R DU
Lack of facilities (bathrooms, storage) 1.8% 6 0.8 8 JO AR A R CL
Undecided 0% 0 0 49 BRS JS MM BP BR TB N AM AW S MH FR SWD JS A JR JF DU JOM DN

30 of 79 people have voted (37%)

SMO

Sir Meow of Purrington Sun 11 Mar 2018 6:32PM

4 - Lack of low-barrier temporary housing
4 - Lack of mental health services
3 - Leadership support from JOIN staff and community members
2 - What does community healthcare look like
0 - What causes displacement
0 - Hazardous waste disposal
0 - RVs in the neighborhood
0 - Theft and how to deal with it
0 - Who are our houseless neighbors

Can we add a "Food resources and how we can help" option?

SMO

Sir Meow of Purrington Tue 13 Mar 2018 7:06PM

4 - Lack of low-barrier temporary housing
4 - Lack of mental health services
3 - Food resources and how we can help
2 - What does community healthcare look like
2 - Leadership support from JOIN staff and community members
0 - What causes displacement
0 - Theft and how to deal with it
0 - RVs in the neighborhood
0 - Hazardous waste disposal
0 - Comfort and safety using sidewalks and bike paths
0 - Trash
0 - Trespassing
0 - Who are our houseless neighbors

Can we add a "Food resources and how we can help" option?

SMO

Sir Meow of Purrington Tue 13 Mar 2018 7:08PM

4 - Food resources and how we can help
4 - Lack of low-barrier temporary housing
4 - Lack of mental health services
2 - Leadership support from JOIN staff and community members
1 - What does community healthcare look like
0 - What causes displacement
0 - Trespassing
0 - Hazardous waste disposal
0 - Comfort and safety using sidewalks and bike paths
0 - Trash
0 - RVs in the neighborhood
0 - Theft and how to deal with it
0 - Who are our houseless neighbors

Can we add a "Food resources and how we can help" option?

J

Jessabell Thu 22 Mar 2018 10:59PM

1 - Theft and how to deal with it
1 - Trash
1 - Trespassing
1 - Impact of multiple camp sites
1 - Comfort and safety using sidewalks and bike paths
1 - RVs in the neighborhood
1 - Hazardous waste disposal
0 - What does community healthcare look like
0 - Who are our houseless neighbors
0 - What causes displacement
0 - Lack of low-barrier temporary housing
0 - Lack of mental health services
0 - Food resources and how we can help
0 - Empathizing with differing viewpoints
0 - How can the community support existing initiatives in Montavilla
0 - Would Montavilla support an organized tiny home village?
0 - Bridging the gap between housed & houseless neighbors
0 - Lack of facilities (bathrooms, storage)
0 - Leadership support from JOIN staff and community members

I would like to see them cleanup their own trash instead of leaving needles everywhere

SMO

Sir Meow of Purrington Sun 11 Mar 2018 6:33PM

There's no option for Food resources in the area and how we can help. I'd also love to see an option for Montavilla resource mapping so we can know how to help when we encounter someone in need. Also maybe discuss 211 as a resource and when to use it instead of 911.

DU

[deactivated account] Wed 28 Mar 2018 12:01AM

Didn't even know 211 was a thing. Thank you for that.

JO

Jonathan Ogden Mon 12 Mar 2018 2:53AM

So in the vein of low-barrier housing, would it be feasible to create some "super blocks" like Barcelona by blocking off portions of the street using something like these?: https://www.treehugger.com/modular-design/homebox-turns-shipping-container-housing-its-end.html

KP

Kevin Provost Mon 12 Mar 2018 9:53PM

I like Meow's idea of resource mapping -- facilitating communication among neighbors.

Jonathan, something like that would be a great topic for discussion. The MNA could provide links to reference materials, and maybe local experts, to help drive the conversation.

JO

Jonathan Ogden Mon 12 Mar 2018 9:57PM

Reference for Superblocks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZORzsubQA_M

M

MJ Tue 13 Mar 2018 1:31AM

JO

Jonathan Ogden Tue 13 Mar 2018 6:15PM

@evelynmac had brought up that a dot poll might not be the best option since not all neighbors were using all of their dots and it gives the ability to skew the options one way or another due to vote-splitting.

I had figured that maintaining the poll to have more dots than options would satisfy this, requiring re-voting from participants but this also keeps all members informed of added options.

Would it be better to take the input options from here and turn them into a ranked vote?

SMO

Sir Meow of Purrington Tue 13 Mar 2018 6:44PM

The dots give us the ability to prioritize our responses. We may not need as many dots tho. I prioritized mine. We should have a way to rank or prioritize them by importance. Not all options are necessarily equal. Perhaps outreach to those who only used a single do per votet would be a better approach. But then, they may have given each answer the same priority. We all have the same ability to skew the results, so there is parity in voting. The options we all choose will (and are) boiling ot the top. #keepthedots

JO

Jonathan Ogden Tue 13 Mar 2018 6:55PM

That's fair, the goal would be to keep the upper quintile (top 20%) of the options, so I figured I'd let the number remain since vote splitting is a problem, but this really was more to get input as well as see what's popular. Dots allow for weighting a certain option that kind of fends off the idea of later added options taking it over (like a ranked vote).

Either way, this is just for the topics that will be covered so there's going to be some additions/subtractions for practical reasons (like nobody available having expertise on a subject).

A

Alex Tue 13 Mar 2018 7:00PM

I changed my vote bc I am doing this all from my phone on the go, and I think I understand the dot voting system a little better now. I think if nothing else it's a great way to get a pulse on what people in the neighborhood are actually feeling. Facebook is terrible for this kind of communication imo, and I tend to just sit conversations out on that forum. Also it seems like a great way to have an actual discussion without letting the process get totally sidelined by minutia as a tactic to halt any forward motion. As always, a work in progress.

JO

Jonathan Ogden Tue 13 Mar 2018 7:02PM

Good to have your input!

EM

Evelyn Mac Thu 15 Mar 2018 11:21PM

Ranking is beneficial but it seems it isn't representative of ranking over the whole group as much as just a few.

JO

Jonathan Ogden Fri 16 Mar 2018 6:05PM

How do you mean exactly? Each person has an equal number of dots, the issue comes with vote splitting, but I would hope each individual weigh the most important thing to them to be a higher value (this lets me do things with the data to see what the Pareto breakdown is).

What would be a better capture method?

EM

Evelyn Mac Sun 25 Mar 2018 1:25AM

The way the data is used is more of the issue. It cannot be read directly since it is not direct info. If 30 people vote and out of 30, only 5 people choose #1 but they use all their dots on 1 to 2 issues, it could be said that all 30 people believe issue #1 is the most important. This would not be true but the data is too complicated to say what issues are truly being chosen by the whole group. So I prefer a straight poll where 2 answers at most can be chosen by one voter.

O

Olivia Sun 25 Mar 2018 1:41AM

To everyone who has voted: I would like y'all to have to opportunity to join the Outreach committee in a meeting where this topic will be discussed and forum plans formulated. Meeting is tomorrow Sunday at the Montavilla Community Center 10am-12pm.

A

Alex Sun 25 Mar 2018 8:57PM

I wasn't able to make it to the meeting this morning bc I had to work. Will the outcome of the meeting and any ways to follow up be available online?

O

Olivia Mon 26 Mar 2018 7:05PM

Hey Alex, the meeting was a broader outreach meeting so the notes will be sent internally. I am happy to add you to either (or both) the outreach communications or the specific subcommittee for the housing/houselessness forum. I am right now preparing for a month's worth of preparation for the forum (date set for May 6th) and I would love to bring all hands on deck. Email me at Olivia@Montavillapdx.org

JO

Jonathan Ogden Thu 29 Mar 2018 12:51AM

May be worth just putting them here as well but redact anything that shouldn't be public (personal info regarding tasks or something

R

robyn Thu 7 Jun 2018 9:19PM

For those wanting to help volunteer at the 6/30 event, go here to sign up: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfDNJB-LsD9KF7Q3YRA1JAURiKctKRB0ABvABiZWq372d4rGA/viewform