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Mon 8 Apr 2019 3:05PM

Reviewing our environmental impact

FE Fran Ellis Public Seen by 114

Following Graeme's post on the carbon emissions produced by burning our temple and effigy, here's a thread to discuss the wider issue of environmental impact and LNT at Nest.

This is a place to start throwing ideas around - what do we do well as a community? How could we improve? How does this vary from individual participants to theme camps, artists, the core team etc? Where do we go from here? Advise away x

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Lexy Wed 10 Apr 2019 2:41PM

My van I am coming to Nest in for the second year is all solar powered! Very impressive. Although thats just for lights and charging things. I think you would struggle to run a full sound system off solar, especially in UK .....

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Gemma Smith Wed 10 Apr 2019 8:37AM

Gas cookers/ camping stoves also?

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Paul Phare Wed 10 Apr 2019 8:58AM

We're talking low impact with gas cookers compared to transport and electricity. I would say how people fuel their cooking should be at their own discretion, at least for now

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Graeme McGregor Wed 10 Apr 2019 2:52PM

For now, I think it's worth considering as many different ways as we can in which Nest has an environmental impact, before we start trying to rank which are most significant.

The reason for that is that there may be larger environmental impacts that, on their own, we can't do very much to reduce or mitigate. There may also be numerous small environmental impacts that could be more easily addressed that would, collectively, have a large positive effect on our environmental impact. Does that make sense?

And we're not, at this point, looking to change anything at all, I don't think. I think that before proposing any policies or changes to how things are done, in order to reduce environmental impact, we need to understand better what those various impacts are. Given that gas is a fossil fuel with a high environmental impact, generally housed in a non-recyclable container made from various metals and plastics, I'd put them on the list, personally.

My proposal would be that, once we understand better the various inputs that make up Nest's environmental impact, then we can better judge what changes can be made to reduce it. I hope that makes sense.

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Paul Phare Wed 10 Apr 2019 3:31PM

I don't think any festivals have a policy against cooking stoves yet, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it. What are the sustainable alternatives? I use biofuel in my Tranja but camp-scale cooking is another thing

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Graeme McGregor Wed 10 Apr 2019 3:40PM

There was a ban at some fests last year, but that was because of the dry period.

I guess communal cooking reduces the impact. Other than that, I don't know.

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Fran Ellis Wed 10 Apr 2019 4:21PM

We invested in some catering-sized hot plates for BL due to the fire ban, which are treating us well - but of course run off the electricity.

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Paul Phare Wed 10 Apr 2019 5:36PM

cooking off electrcity isn't an option while we're using generators. It has to be a biofuel solution or burning sustainable wood

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Iona Steen Wed 1 May 2019 11:04AM

It might be a two big step burns are a larger

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xavier dubruille Wed 1 May 2019 12:19PM

for me if you really want to lower the ecological impact, the first big problem are transport (which would mean a centralized transport for art and orga in one go AND getting a bus again but seeing the disparate arrival time, complicated) and power (how much would it cost to go full solar for the same capacity as the grid? can the cost of the grid be divided instead to 2 generator to 4/5/6+ solar system?)
And for the plastic consumption if a system to get all the food (fruit and veg) from local farm like we did in wales are put in place, it lower the impact (how need strawberry from spain after all?) For the rest, Burner are quite ecological despite the bad will of the actual society, of course if we could make our own beer/cider/wine/other and get a proper tank on site where everybody fills their bottle instead of cans and glass, that would be way better but that seems pretty far fetched.

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