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CoTech Fund

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Establishing an internal money-time fund, a one-year pilot project.

AC

Poll Created Tue 8 Jan 2019 12:29PM

CoTech Fund - co-operatively powered by cash & time Closed Fri 8 Feb 2019 12:02PM

To establish an internal money-time fund, a one-year pilot project.

**£1 a week or an hour of work each month per member. **You can contribute more money or/and work voluntarily.

Each co-op contributes on behalf of its members.

This proposal was endorsed at the CoTech Hack in Space4 last November.

Purpose of the Fund:
- network operating costs e.g. organising CoTech events,
- business development e.g. putting together a large, joint tender, skills map,
- outreach e.g. sending people to promote CoTech & co-ops in general,
- mutual support & learning e.g. funding training, consultancy,
- internal projects via CoBudget e.g. urgent non-profit initiative

Process:
CoTech will have its own bank account with Unity Trust Bank. To set it up we will use CoTech constitution drafted at Wortley Hall in November 2017 and ratified by a vote on Loomio on the 8th of February 2018 (https://wiki.coops.tech/wiki/CoTech_Constitution).

Each co-op will be contacted asking for their current number of members.

Co-ops will then be sent a link where they can determine how much would they like to pay into CoTech Fund (suggested amount as mentioned above: £1/week per member). If a co-op does not wish to participate financially they can contribute their time.

A ‘CoTech Running List’ stack within Deck app exists on CoTech Nextcloud (office.coops.tech) and every member of CoTech has access to it by clicking the icon in the top nav bar.
Deck app enables creating tasks, assigning them, marking them as completed etc.

At the end of the pilot year, each co-op will submit a summary of what exactly they did for CoTech and include the estimate of the time contributed. Simple collaborative spreadsheet will be available on CoTech Nextcloud with each co-op having their own tab.

At the end of the year, if co-ops have outstanding balance they are expected to transfer the amount to the CoTech bank account. However, over the pilot year of the Fund, participation will be voluntary.

The summary report will be published on community forum. The Governance and Membership team who put the proposal together, will evaluate whether CoBudget can be used in tandem with the Fund.

Members of Animorph, Go Free Range and Outlandish volunteered to become signatories of the bank account so the procedure of setting things up should go smoothly.

If you are interested in the history of this proposal, the approved draft is available on CoTech Nextcloud, can also be accessed directly: https://office.coops.tech/s/66P3qpGpoCCyNT6

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 81.8% 9 SWS AH AM DB JMF AC CBF AC P
Abstain 18.2% 2 JA G
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 105 JD FL ER MP HR SG RW M M KB MK CCC KB PB JT AW CL JC SF BW

11 of 116 people have voted (9%)

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein
Agree
Wed 6 Feb 2019 3:28PM

Agile Collective is happy to be part of the pilot for this!

AM

Abigail Murphy
Agree
Thu 7 Feb 2019 11:12AM

Outlandish is definitely go on this. One question is how this interacts or potential conflicts with the monies some co-ops are contributing to Solid Fund - should we be making some proposals against that fund? Should co-tech members pay in to both? All things that can be discussed and don't have an impact on Outlandish's vote for this proposal.

DB

Doug Belshaw
Agree
Thu 7 Feb 2019 11:42AM

We Are Open co-op are a little fuzzy about how exactly we pay (how often? what's the process?) but in general are definitely in favour of this initiative! We're in for the pilot year :)

AC

Autonomic Co-operative
Agree
Thu 7 Feb 2019 12:00PM

We can use the funds to started organising CoTech events in a more equitable way!

P

PollyRobbinsOutlandish
Agree
Thu 7 Feb 2019 1:27PM

Seems like a really good idea for a pilot. Outlandish happy to be a bank account signatory.

CBF

Chris Booth (Form & Function)
Agree
Thu 7 Feb 2019 2:18PM

Yes, this sounds good to us!

JMF

James Mead (Go Free Range)
Agree
Thu 7 Feb 2019 2:25PM

All of us at Go Free Range support this proposal :thumbsup:

SWS

Sion Whellens (Principle Six/Calverts)
Agree
Thu 7 Feb 2019 2:40PM

Agreeing as Principle Six (1 member), suspect Calverts will sit it out for now

AC

Animorph Co-op
Agree
Fri 8 Feb 2019 8:05AM

We're in!

G

Graham
Abstain
Fri 8 Feb 2019 8:45AM

For now I'm going to abstain on this. I'm already contributing to SolidFund and I'm a paid up member of Platform 6. I'm not against the idea, and I'm happy to contribute some time to CoTech, but I'm not sufficiently clear on CoTech's game plan, which I think I need to be before making further commitment. Maybe the Sheffield discussion will help me.

P

PollyRobbinsOutlandish Tue 8 Jan 2019 5:30PM

Thanks for getting this live @animorphcoop. I'm definitely up for a pilot. Clarifying question: how do we collectively decide which tasks from Deck will be done? If there's a task on there, can I just do it an expect to be paid for it? Can I also create a task myself, add it to Deck, do it, and then get paid for it?

AC

Animorph Co-op Tue 8 Jan 2019 5:38PM

Thanks Polly! At the hack we thought people could create the tasks themselves and then do them (or assign to someone else?) because there's a lot of important work that could be done within CoTech. The assumption that whatever is on Deck is worth doing would be tested. Whatever is done on Deck is archived and at the end of the year we will see what actually got done.
You do not get paid for this work, this is how you pay into the fund (e.g. if a member of a co-op has done 12 hours of work for CoTech their co-op wouldn't be expected to pay money into the bank account for them). This will be up to each co-op to evaluate during the year or at the end of the year. /Szczepan

CCC

Can we assume that number of workers for the £1 per week / one hour of work rule applies to full time employed equivalents rather than members? Because some co-ops like Webarchitects have non-worker members and some co-ops have workers who are not members and some co-ops have part-time members.

AC

Animorph Co-op Wed 9 Jan 2019 9:27AM

@chriscroome I see your point. The pilot is designed to run a simplified version of the process so can we assume all worker members (in whichever capacity their operate) should be included? We could leave it to the discretion of the co-ops to decide if they want to contribute for working non-members too.

CCC

Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) Wed 9 Jan 2019 11:17AM

What about part-time workers, for example I'm the only full time worker at Webarchitects, everybody else is part time, should they count the same as full time workers or should we add up all the workers hours to come up with a total for the full time equivalents and base the contribution on that?

AC

Animorph Co-op Wed 9 Jan 2019 1:54PM

@chriscroome I agree it makes sense, each co-op would need to determine it for themselves though. What do others think?

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein Tue 15 Jan 2019 4:39PM

we are discussing internally but the vibe is good. One thing to note, in my own mind at least, that any pilot will take some time to get off the ground as it will take a good bit of time to generate a surplus that can be used to fund things. So I can see us working details out ahead of that...

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein Thu 17 Jan 2019 10:31AM

I've started a proposal internally for us to vote on this which will end next Thurs...

AC

Animorph Co-op Wed 6 Feb 2019 3:15PM

Does not quite seem like we are getting a quorum here!

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein Wed 6 Feb 2019 3:29PM

We are up for it!

AC

Animorph Co-op Fri 8 Feb 2019 8:05AM

Big thanks to those who have voted! There are definitely elements that need clarifying but I believe it is part of the pilot.
It seems the easiest if we create a shared spreadsheet where each co-op could log their inputs, be it on weekly, monthly or even, since it's a voluntary pilot and people might decide to join during the year, annual basis. It would be great to start pinpointing details and setting up the account soon, but we could distill and agree on the process at the next gathering?

AC

Poll Created Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:30PM

CoTech call on setting up the Fund Closed Sun 3 Mar 2019 4:01PM

Would you like to take part in an online conversation about the fund at the beginning of March? What day would suit you best?

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Tuesday 5th 26.3% 5 AH AM KWO CLF AC
Friday 8th 26.3% 5 AH KWO CLF AC NGW
Monday 4th 21.1% 4 AH KWO CLF NGW
Thursday 7th 15.8% 3 AM CLF NGW
Wednesday 6th 10.5% 2 AM CLF
Undecided 0% 111 JD JA SWS FL G ER MP HR SG RW M M KB MK CCC KB PB JT AW CL

6 of 117 people have voted (5%)

KWO

Kayleigh Walsh Outlandish Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:40PM

Friday 8th
Tuesday 5th
Monday 4th

:D

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein Tue 19 Feb 2019 2:02PM

Friday 8th
Tuesday 5th
Monday 4th

Afternoons are preferable. I don't work Friday but if I'm around I can jump on a call... unless it's really sunny!

AC

Animorph Co-op Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:31PM

Check out the poll, let's crack on with it!

AC

Animorph Co-op Fri 1 Mar 2019 2:22PM

Would it be OK to meet after lunch, let's say 2pm? The question is how do we decide whether it's Tuesday or Friday?

P

PollyRobbinsOutlandish Fri 1 Mar 2019 2:29PM

Yes. Either one is good for me. Shall we say Tuesday? The sooner the better!

AC

Animorph Co-op Mon 4 Mar 2019 9:08AM

Hope you had a great weekend!
Shall we do 2pm tomorrow then?
Will send out a link to Nextcloud Talk video chat room!

AC

Animorph Co-op Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:04PM

Everyone is invited to join the conversation today at 2pm: https://office.coops.tech/call/zebqxz3j

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein Tue 5 Mar 2019 2:58PM

Nice call @szczepan , thanks for setting it up. My task was to set up a monthly cal to check in on progress on this venture. My suggestion is the last Friday of every month, which would mean one call before the Spring Gathering on 29th March. The gathering is on the last Friday of April so the second would be 31st May.

Would that work for everyone / enough people (who is part of the pilot)? If so, am or pm?

AC

Animorph Co-op Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:52PM

I'm in for pm!

P

PollyRobbinsOutlandish Tue 5 Mar 2019 6:22PM

Yeah pm works for me best too!

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein Tue 12 Mar 2019 3:38PM

Hi folks, I have managed to arrange our visioning day thing for 29th march! Starting from the afternoon so that is now out for me. Any chance we can do the morning?