Where can you set a LWC Record, What do we do for LWC Records

Hello Team, @mariabarnabe and i where talking last week and Came up with some really cool ideas and and some hard questions.

First Thing. We thought it would be really cool to send our Record Holder an Actual certificate. It would be a generic Award with our new logo and basically say

"On Feb 1st, 2019, John Smith Set the Southern Pacific LWC Snatch Record at 81kilograms for the 67kg Weight class in the Masters 35-39 year old Division."

This would be something cool that they could print out, Share on Social Media, or even just something officially recognizing their efforts. Thoughts?

Second Item, This is a little more tricky. Who and Where can LWC Records be set.
Option 1 - LWC Records can be set at any USAW sanctioned meet by any persons who are active members or the Southern Pacific LWC. (This means Caitlyn Hogan could set LWC Records at Worlds. The upside is this is very easy to track because the way the USAW website works with Tracking numbers. Down side is World team members and Olympians could basically set all LWC records and your avg lifter has little to shoot for.

Option 2 - LWC Records can be set at any USAW sanctioned meet in the LWC by any persons who are active members or the Southern Pacific LWC. (This means LWC records can only be set at Meets in the LWC. Little Harder to track but might draw higher level lifter to the LWC meets.)
Option 3 - LWC Records can be set at any USAW State, National, Or International Meet, by any persons who are active members or the Southern Pacific LWC. (This is how Florida has it right now. They as have Cash Prizes for LWC Records. The up side is that all the Records have been set in front of National Level Referees with Jury's. This would require more work on our records person to find our LWC members in Higher level meets. It also Means we need to Have a LWC Youth, Junior, Senior, Masters Championships.)

I personally Feel like the idea of Certificates for Records is a killer idea,(Personally Hope to hang a few myself)

I also Think that Option 1 is good for setting records. I would hope that we are aiming to celebrate the best our LWC has to offer. I think seeing Caitlyn Hogan's World Champion totals or Pomponio's Olympic Numbers on our records board will inspire other to reach for the stars. No pressure @anthonypomponio.

I think that option 2 is best it forces the top athletes to do the comps in the LWC, it will help promote the sport, it doesn't have to be a "peak" performance just would be cool to have the actual athlete set the record at a local comp. But honestly doesn't really matter to me as the other 2 ways are great, specifically #3 i like the "state" meet idea, but i do feel that one has to be in the LWC for a certain time, to often lifters come and go so fast and still have records standing..... i think maybe 2 years in this LWC is needed. what you think?

I see what you are saying about lifters coming and going.

What about no time limit on new Lifters but Lifters that are transferring to the SPLWC must be here for 1 year. This can help us avoid Higher level lifters who jump around and allows new lifters fresh into weightlifting to still set records.

i like that alot man, thats kind of what i was implying, new lifters are fine unless they come from another country and sign up with USAW prob need to have a rule on that as well, maybe if they ever lifted in a national comp they need to have a probation period, we almost need to treat our LWC like a mini USAW. 1 year is fair enough for sure.

Seems like a fruitful convo. As a guy who currently has the record for the 96 in the LWC but wouldn’t keep it if we expanded it to national meets, what Pomp has to say benefits me, but the other options benefit my fiancé who set her national records at American Masters so I’m conflicted here haha!

In all seriousness though, I like the input. I am trying not to formulate my opinions too quickly here.

My fiancé is wondering how hard it would be to track how long an athlete has been here? Also, she brought up the point that LWC athletes aren’t actually moving here to set a record, but rather are often moving here for coaching, and if that’s the case, what’s the harm in having their records represented? After all I think we all want to have our records represent what So Cal has to offer in its finest, and if, say, someone who came here from Texas to train with Bob is that person, what’s the harm in having them represent?

I get the argument that maybe we want the guy/gal who maybe doesn’t have a shot at being represented nationally (trust me, as I laid out above I get that on a very personal level lol), but ultimately, if my 288 total isn’t the best in the LWC and someone else gives the SPLWC a better look against the rest of the country, doesn’t that count for something? I do want the SPLWC to be taken seriously, and if that helps, I don’t really need to be recognized that much, and I think/hope I speak for others in my same position when I say that.

I believe all the options have their Pros and Cons.

As for New Members/Moving lifters.
I think that new members of the LWC, where the SPLWC is their first LWC can set Records. Lifters who have Moved here have been in good standing for 12 months or more maybe be eligible and able to set LWC records at any and all USAW sanctioned Meets. I do agree this is will be a common thing. I know we have had different times where "many new lifters have Joined our LWC because of a new gym or coach but i do not believe this to be common.

I believe that only allowing persons to set records at LWC level meets starts to lean towards (participation trophy) status. I use Caitlyn Hogan as a reference here. She has been a members of the SPLWC for as long as i can remember. From starting in weightlifting to make the world team. The Records she hit at worlds are testament to the validity of our LWC and what we are capable of.

In my efforts to find out what is common practice around the different LWC's in the US i have found that most LWC's either allow local records at any sanctioned meet or at a State or higher level meet. I have yet to find a LWC that only allows records to be set at Local or state level meets.

As a reference, here is a list of a few other LWC and what their rules are.

Pacific Weightlifting Association - Records can be set at any meet.
Florida Weightlifting Association - Records can be set at State and higher meets. No Local meets.
Texas Weightlifting Association - Records can be set at State and higher meets. No local Meets.
Maryland Weightlifting Association - Records can be set at any meet
Michigan Weightlifting Association - Records can be set at any meet.

Erik to answer you question about how hard it is to find out a lifters LWC, take me 3 clicks on Webpoint to find out. Litterally 1 extra click to verify the results.

Erik to answer you question about how hard it is to find out a lifters LWC, take me 3 clicks on Webpoint to find out. Litterally 1 extra click to verify the results.

I wanted to bring up one final point about setting records that I believe will be very helpful moving forward.

Almost every LWC i have looked at requires the Person who set the record or the coach to submit for the new record.
It is also first come first serve based on submitting for records.
I.E. If record is 100kg on July 1st and "Lifter A" hits 101kg on July 14th and "Lifter B" Hits 101kg on July 30th. Lifter B submits for new record the following day and LifterA waits till Aug 5th. Lifter B gets the record.

I can see this being a very fair way to keep the amount of work required by the records person to a minimum. Most LWCs who have this rule keep the Form easy available to download on the website.