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Tue 19 Sep 2017 10:30AM

Data Commons: Meet the Working Group

KW

Koen Wynants Thu 26 Oct 2017 3:26PM

Hello

JR

Jon Richter Wed 8 Nov 2017 12:29AM

I have been watching this conversation for a while and feel it is a good moment to revive it with another view on data commons.

At the Media Convergence for the Commons in Villarceaux we also enquired with @maiadereva @julienlecaille @sylviafredriksson @fredericsultan and others about the general role of a computational commons we may find ourselves in care of. This may be enough of a subject for a separate working group. There is plenty of scattered knowledge here and there to be explored already, starting with

This connects directly to the procurement of data commons as outlined in the Charter for Building a Data Commons for a Free, Fair and Sustainable Future
Commoning
, which is in development since March 2017.

What we found for a mapping effort like Transformap to proceed, is, that the building of the infrastructure needs to be cleanly separated from the processes it maintains. Why a computational and a data commons may as well go together. The one needs the other to have a reason to exist. After Heracleitos of Ephesos we could call this contentious coincidence. (gegenstrebige Fügung in German, but an English translation is also available, #117)

This is why allmende.io (Allmende is German for Commons) has been started the very weekend of the grand mapping meeting munich (#14mmm) that founded Transformap, which we keep on maintaining from the solidarity economy association Ecobytes. This is one exemplary mode to Separate Commons and Commerce to make it work for the Commons.

VG

Vincenzo Giorgino Tue 21 Nov 2017 4:41PM

BTW, at the University of Torino we are hiring. I am a member of the blockchain group of the Co-City program, funded by the Horizon 2020 Urban Innovative Action and we are looking for a designer-programmer. Contact me if interested.

JR

Jon Richter Tue 21 Nov 2017 9:38PM

Best Vincenzo, in which way is your posting related to the conversation above, or the general subject data commons at all? I am wondering, because it is hard for me to see any Commons in tokenizing distributed ledgers, offered as solutions to Commoning processes.

In more friendly words of response to the hijacking of this thread with a business offer, which is the problem in relation to data commons, that the Co-City programme is aiming to solve?

VG

Vincenzo Giorgino Wed 22 Nov 2017 4:19PM

I do not think my proposal can be labeled as commercial as it comes from a public institution, the state university of Turin. In addition, the collaboration is related to a project aimed at encouraging and developing the collaborative economy and commons (http://www.uia-initiative.eu/en/uia-cities/turin
However, always friendly, how many people get their living from the commons economy? I only know one. It seems to me all to be built, whether we are in the state, in a cooperative or in the private sector. But here it seems that there are no premises for that. What strikes me is the censorship on the previous message of a member who manifests his interest in my proposal. I believe that fact counts on thousands of theoretical discussions. I would be happy to be wrong.

TK

Tibor Katelbach Wed 22 Nov 2017 5:12PM

my interest in your project was not censored​ , i send it in private to not pollute the thread and I'm still interested :)

VG

Vincenzo Giorgino Wed 22 Nov 2017 6:07PM

Dear Jon Richter you have no rights to delete my messages. It is a form of violence.

VG

Vincenzo Giorgino Wed 22 Nov 2017 6:16PM

Ok. I hope my answer has clarified the meaning of my offer and the reference to hijacking has been made in a moment of inattention.
As I am not able to distinguish here between public and private messages I invite Tiber to write me to my institutional email address [email protected].
Any conversation about the Co-City program is very welcome and I will go back to it when possible.

OK

Oliver Kalleinen Mon 27 Nov 2017 2:56PM

It is just not so clear how to communicate within the work groups. In the moment this thread is more like a catch all thread.

E

Emaline Tue 5 Dec 2017 7:40PM

Just a heads up to everyone who's interested in data commons, the project me and a huge team have been working on launched today. It's a hosting ecosystem to begin migrating web users to distributed applications!

Here's our page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/take-back-the-internet-with-shared-p2p-hosting-money-community/x/17806786#/backers

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