Data Commons: Meet the Working Group

Hey @emaline which system are you working on? CEPTR? Or are there relations with Faircoin?

Hi Amanda! I am working with CEPTR. In the past few months we have dedicated our efforts wholly to Holochain and Holo (pre requisites to its other projects). No connections to Faircoin. Our currency efforts are explicitly against "tokenization", which we believe to be the unfortunate locus where crypto repeats the mistakes of national currencies and become fiat currencies. Anyway. So glad you recognized the project. I very much look forward to explaining the project further and collaborating on next steps!

Hi @emaline great to hear! Very interested in the details. If good CEPTR was recently in Portugal with Faircoop then? I saw Arthur Brock on a picture with someone I know from a former hackaton. I know there have been some brave programming actions and other actions past months. Very curious to hear more!

Hi everyone! I will be joining from Seville, digital fabrication laboratory experience. You know, looking for distributing and democratizing the means of production in the digital era. But also with some ideas about archiving which can mix fine in the group. See you on Wednesday!

hi there, so i am the 'Point person' for this workshop. We will be a small group with quite some expertise it seems, so we can get a lot done ! :)

We hope to come up with solutions & proposals, making the most of people's expertise. There is an elaborate methodology in place which will direct us there. I would say questions could be what's lacking, can we do, what can we replicate ?

If people want to share ideas to focus on already before tomorrow morning, please do!

@sophie40 Yeah ! I think we should choose an open source ETL and contribute to it A LOT to make it very versatile and transform lots of data into other very EASILY !

What do you think ?

I can't be here in Madrid for your event, but I am working in a project to free the power to act of people. The goal is to use the online data (which is basically "information"), and analyse them to match needs of organizations, resources and people's skills. The people would use the platform we're building to know what they can do at their scale, and contribute really easily to different actions (filtered in function of their center of interests).

So we deeply need a useful ETL, if you can provide a team to work on that, it would be life changer for us <3

We've started a collaborative document about the ETL we know, but we are not skillful for this kind of things yet. So we don't know what's the best !

Please let me know if you consider going this way with the data commons working group ;)

I hope it goes well today, folks! Pity I can't be there. @emaline - I'm interested in your comment: 'Our currency efforts are explicitly against "tokenization", which we believe to be the unfortunate locus where crypto repeats the mistakes of national currencies.' Care to expand on that a bit? Or point me in the direction of some online resources that expand on that a bit?

Yes, sure. We advocate for people to use cryptocurrency in a mutual credit model based on applications that are more like communities brought together to address particular problems. For collective intelligence and data management, for example, it would be computing power.

This way instead of tracking how many tokens exist and who has them (this is what takes so much power and energy using blockchain, "which computer gets to create tokens in a lottery"?) you only have to monitor the actual resources of the network. It takes away opportunities for speculation and does not work by fiat.

Here is an article: https://medium.com/holochain/building-responsible-cryptocurrencies-d45d7d2173ed

The website of a hosting ecosystem that runs this way that I mentioned above is holo.host and has a white paper on mutual credit crypto