No prob! Gotta give credit where due: It's derived from a Google translated version of vTaiwan's stock description, and adapted from there :)

Thanks for sharing. I like the instructions for commenting you included in that Polis poll. Maybe we can use those too. The process you describe does seem like something that could help us with getting some much needed open-ended feedback using Polis. I think the use of the HackMD pad is also a good idea for us too to accompany the deliberations. Thanks.

Re: Polis. I've used it for small discussions, so it's not just an "at scale" thing. Specifically, one discussion was a lengthy and dramatic mailing list thread surrounding a contentious hackspace decision. I teased the seed statements from that thread (linked in convo description), and offered this:

https://pol.is/2yscmwabsf

If you can suss the dynamics from clicking around the viz for a few minutes, then I'm glad to say I just saved you from reading 20 pages of unstructured emails :)

Note that there were 15 people who chimed in via email, and 20 who participated in the conversation. A 33% increase in participation feels significant. imho Polis really shines at async or combination sync/async via pre- or post-circulation -- ideally post-circulation, as sychronous comms in advance allows seeding the Polis convo with lots of nuance. Having 7 people in the synchronous convo is a minimum for getting the visualization to show.

Anyhow, hopefully this is helpful, but I'm fine with whatever those convening think best! (Polis is actually easy to use unofficially, just by taking notes and populating a polis conversation with seed statements, then sharing it in the last 15 minutes)

Disclaimer: I'm biased here, as I did participatory community research on g0v and vTaiwan in 2018, and now steward the weekly pol.is community calls :)

https://github.com/pol-is/polis#%EF%B8%8F-get-involved

I suspect the people of Taiwan were much more sussed and better organised than the membership of social.coop, when it comes to strategy. Also, far more numerous.

I thought that the way the people at vTaiwan made their government would be a good model for us to follow. Some of the methods described in the Exit to Community: Distributed Governance | Media Enterprise Design Lab | University of Colorado Boulder Webinar with @Nathan Schneider were effective in organizing their new Democracy. In Particular I think the use of the advanced AI analysis polling platform called Polis was effective for rational deliberation at scale - Polis -

I would like to know what everyone feels and thinks about using such processes for our strategy summit.

Here is the summary of the webinar by E2C.

Check out the webinar if you haven't already or again if you have maybe.

Exit to Community: Distributed Governance | Media Enterprise Design Lab | University of Colorado Boulder

What does everyone think about the processes used by vTaiwan to form their government and its relevance to informing our collaborative strategizing processes? 🙂

I could set up a poll on Pol.is for the question of what our purposes and strategies should be and everyone could put in their statements and everyone could vote on them. The analysis and process with Polis smart polls seem to be more informative than regular polls and could yield useful conclusions and data to inform our summit processes.

Unfortunately I am occupied both days of the summit! Thank you so much for putting this all together and for everyone who will take the time and join. I am looking forward to hear about the outcome.

Just a note that Mastodon 3.1.0 added an "Announcements" feature that would be nice to use for letting folks know once a decision has been made on time, date and agenda.

https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/pull/12662

Would be interesting to do some outreach, especially towards the global south. Me, @Graham and two other codirectors of Platform6 Cooperative (who is now the host of Social Coop Open Collective!) set up a Co-op Support Network facebook group. It has managed to attract quite a decent membership from non-western countries, which was a positive surprise. Would love to see something similar happen with SC.

I could put 20$ into a "Developing World" fund that would help pay the membership fee of those who come from low-income countries.

Draw.io (Diagrams.net) also integrates with Nextcloud.

We talked about adding a virtual board, I made one available on diagrams.net which is free and open source but the only options for cloud storage besides self hosting is google drive and Onedrive.

It is stored at:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ePfJSH1rP9rdx_RtLc0C7gT8InwLIfPZ/view?usp=sharing

Information on this app https://alternativeto.net/software/diagramly/about/

It can be edited by anyone with the link.

Also probably we can just propose ideas and things here and then someone can add it to the board for a visual summary if it would be helpful to the process.

Feel free to offer alternatives.

So what do we want to discuss and bring to the strategizing summit of 2020?

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