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COVID Mandate by Jurisdiction review- Monday 20 June at 2pm.

JE Jason Emmins Public Seen by 48

This action comes from the Risk Jedi.

The purpose of this Jedlet is to:

  • Review the advice received from the lawyer regarding COVID Mandate requirements- attached.

  • from an organisational perspective, identify what we need to consider/implement/identify options.

  • Feedback will be reported back to the Governance Jedi (scheduled for the 23rd June).

A teams meeting has been sent to All Jeder members for Monday 20th June at 2pm. If you are not able to attend the meeting, please make comments, raise questions or provide feedback on this thread.

It would be great to see you there.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

Depends on the circumstances and should be discussed with the Governance Jedi

If someone has documented health evidence around their risk of getting vaccinated which would impact their health this is not their 'fault'. Blaming the individual for a mandate decision is not solving the greater problem around individual choice and discrimination based on choices.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

The Individual should pay the individual fine and Jeder should pay the organisational fine

The individual and the organisation needs to be accountable. I think that legally it would be difficult to enforce an individual to pay the organisations fine.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

Individual should be responsible for both personal and organisational fine

If we're given clear info about what the mandates state, and clear info about how to work in the grey areas without risking a fine (E.g. unvaccinated members being able to working non face to face) I believe it should be the individual's responsibility to work in a way that doesn't attract a huge fine.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

Depends on the circumstances and should be discussed with the Governance Jedi

I think we need to seek legal advice(not HR advice) from a legal company that has a case similar to this, and can provide legal advice to Jeder. In this case, I do not think it matters what opinions members might hold....we cannot breach the law, leaving Jeder exposed .

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

Individual should be responsible for both personal and organisational fine

It is their choice not to vaccinate so I feel their responsibility with the outcomes of their choice

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

Individual should be responsible for both personal and organisational fine

Many of us were hesitant and we sucked it up and sacrificed so much to keep others safe by being vaccinated. I don鈥檛 want to be financially responsible for someone else who was not socially responsible. (Legitimate exemptions not included.)

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

Individual should be responsible for both personal and organisational fine

If you don鈥檛 meet your state mandate you can work NON face to face = WIN

Knowingly continuing to work face to face NOT adhering to mandate I see as a strategy to challenge the mandate and feel uncomfortable with Jeder being used to pursue or fund this agenda.

Game changer yes BUT activity that puts Jeder at risk makes all members liable to fund lawyers/litigation/fines etc

I am deeply concerned if Jeder is deregistered and the negative impact on participants/members & their families.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

Depends on the circumstances and should be discussed with the Governance Jedi

Each case needs to be considered with it's own context and situation. An amicable decision needs to be made together.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

The Individual should pay the individual fine and Jeder should pay the organisational fine

I鈥檓 unsure if we would be able to enforce an individual paying the org fine legally. Concerned this would leave Jeder open to litigation by a Member which could have larger fiscal impact on the organisation as well as registration impacts.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2022 6:28AM

Depends on the circumstances and should be discussed with the Governance Jedi

If an individual has a medical reason for not being vaccinated then this should not preclude them from working with Jeder and a case by case decision should be discussed at the Governance Jedi, if the individual makes a choice based on their moral values then I feel that the individual should be responsible for their own fines. While this sounds cold hearted why should those who made the moral decision to vaccinate and the organisation be responsible for fines for those who havent.

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