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Native American Land and Treaties

MY Mike Yochim Public Seen by 403

We must respect the territorial sovereignty of the Native American tribes. Pipelines must not cross into Native American territory.

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Adrienne Craig-Williams Thu 30 Mar 2017 4:36PM

Thanks Mike. Do you disagree with any of the current platform or would you like to make an addition? I'm not sure the platform should say "pipelines must not cross into ..." because that is a top-down injunction rather than respecting the democratic processes of any given pipeline project in Native American territory.

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Mike Yochim Fri 31 Mar 2017 4:39PM

Adrienne- I don't truthfully understand what you mean by "a top-down injunction..." I don't disagree with the platform, such as it is. I think it is rather short though. I know it talks about self government and recognition of Native American sovereignty. My first sentence just restates what is already part of the plank, but as a lead in to my statement about pipelines.
I know we support self determination of Native Americans, but with DAPL and the current Federal Government, I feel our part of the platform needs to stress that intrusion into Native American territory to complete pipelines initiated outside their territory can not be allowed.

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Adrienne Craig-Williams Sun 16 Apr 2017 11:59PM

I just meant that if we support sovereignty, which we do, we shouldn't then prescribe any particular rules. That should be the end of it. Because there might be a time when a sovereign Native American community wants the pipeline, so our platform shouldn't prohibit it out of hand. I don't think that's likely, I'm just talking about the language.

So would you like to add something to the plank as it currently stands, and if so, what?

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Mike Yochim Mon 17 Apr 2017 12:10PM

We need to respect Native American sovereignty, something that has never been done to this day. I feel the plank needs to be clear and unequivocal.
The issue of pipelines and fracking while a separate issue, impacts the sovereignty as we have seen in DAPL. Keystone is coming back apparently and does it impact sovereignty or is it a straight environmental issue that belongs on that plank alone.
Here in NY they are now talking about a pipeline across the Lenape reservation. It runs through NY and NJ.
As the Green Party, this has to be a key part of our platform.

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Adrienne Craig-Williams Tue 18 Apr 2017 1:54PM

This is the plank as it is now:
Introduction: The Greens support New Yorkʼs recognition of Native American nations as sovereign with the right to self-determination and self-government. Treaties with sovereign nations should be respected and honored in fact and appearance. The Greens recognize the sovereignty of New Yorkʼs native nations.
The Green Party supports the following policies:

  • Negotiated solutions with New Yorkʼs indigenous nations as preferable to court-imposed solutions
  • Stopping New York Stateʼs imposition of sales taxes on sovereign nations’ land
  • The right of indigenous people to participate in and celebrate their own culture

It seems clear an unequivocal to me, which is why I asked what you'd like to add or change in the current platform.

Thanks!

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Mike Yochim Wed 19 Apr 2017 11:45AM

I still believe as part of the plank that a statement about respecting Native American rights to clean water and to approve pipelines that may cross into its sovereign lands.
That their decisions are absolute and can not be overruled by any Federal agency or government officials.

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Adrienne Craig-Williams Wed 19 Apr 2017 5:41PM

How about this bullet point:
* Sovereignty includes rights to clean water and to approve pipelines that may cross into its sovereign lands. Their decisions are absolute and cannot be overruled by any US agency or official, or any corporation.

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Jim McCabe Sun 30 Apr 2017 10:53PM

Minor grammatical: I made "rights" singular in first bullet and changed "Their" to "Sovereign" in second sentence: "Sovereignty includes the right to clean water and the right to approve or deny pipelines that may cross into sovereign lands. Sovereign decisions are absolute and cannot be overruled by any U.S. agency or official, or any corporation."

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Mike Yochim Thu 20 Apr 2017 10:05PM

Adrienne:
I think your bullet point is excellent.

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Adrienne Craig-Williams Sat 22 Apr 2017 2:01PM

Great! I put it in the platform!

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Mike Yochim Sun 23 Apr 2017 11:00AM

Wish it was up to me.

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Adrienne Craig-Williams Mon 24 Apr 2017 12:05AM

What do you mean?

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Alexis Bhagat Mon 24 Apr 2017 2:00AM

Since this is the NY Green Party, should our plank on Indiginous Nations include any points specific to the native people's of NY? For example the right of Mohawks from NY, QC and ON to freely travel within Akwesasne Nation without checking in at Canadian Port of Entry, or the validity of the Iroquois Passport? Or the necessity of Oneida Nation placing land they are purchasing in Oneida and Madison County into Federal Trust?

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Adrienne Craig-Williams Sun 30 Apr 2017 5:24PM

Does Mike's suggestion work for you?

  • The Federal government will issue, recognize and not unreasonably withhold the granting of a visa, where necessary, to Native Americans to cross national borders in order to access sovereign land.
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Jim McCabe Sun 30 Apr 2017 10:56PM

Okay with me @adriennecraigwilli. @alexisbhagat are you okay with this language suggested by @mikeyochim for the separate concern you raised: "The Federal government will issue, recognize, and not unreasonably withhold the granting of a visa, where necessary, to Native Americans to cross national borders in order to access sovereign land."

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Alexis Bhagat Mon 1 May 2017 12:52AM

That language doesn't really address either of the issues I brought up, i.e. (1) recognizing the Haudenausanee passport and (2) permitting Mohawks to freely travel within Akwesasne Nation without checking in at US-Candian border control. Anyway, maybe the first is too big and the second too specific. I do not approve the suggested text around visa's, but am happy to withdraw my original suggestion. I hope in a future year, we can get input from the Haudenausanee nations or other nations in NY for our platform plank. But right now, let's just let you finish your revision!

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Jim McCabe Wed 3 May 2017 10:46AM

Okay, we'll strike the draft plank on this point

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Mike Yochim Mon 24 Apr 2017 11:38AM

Adrienne- Sorry, my bad, didn't see the 'I' in front of "put it in the platform."

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Mike Yochim Mon 24 Apr 2017 11:46AM

Alexis- I think that is a very complicated topic. It involves a few moving parts. It involves another country for one. It would involve Homeland Security for another. Perhaps something along the lines of, the Federal government will issue, recognize and not unreasonably withhold the granting of a visa to Native Americans to cross borders in order to access sovereign land.