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Wed 17 May 2017 1:05PM

Where shall we meet?

BG Ben Galewsky Public Seen by 359

We already have a space in at Parkland. What additional or alternative spaces are there that we can go to that will grow hack culture in CU? Let's see where this takes us!

BG

Ben Galewsky Wed 17 May 2017 1:14PM

I will start things off with my resistance to a space that requires driving from the CU core. I think there are many of us who have patterned our lives around not using a car and being "loco-voracious". For me, downtown Champaign is about the edge of where I am willing to go routinely.

JC

Jason Cerezo Fri 19 May 2017 12:49AM

I don't think it would be terrible to see how things work out in Research Park. It's not a permanent commitment and it could realistically be easier for more people.

SH

Sanford Hess Fri 19 May 2017 5:56PM

I am in favor of trying the Research Park space. I think it will be easier to draw new people there because it's got cachet and people know where it is. Getting people to come to Parkland has been more difficult, and giving them instructions to find it has been painful.

GS

Gordon Speagle Fri 19 May 2017 6:44PM

Independent Media Center? I am still not in favor of Research Park for the reasons i brought up last week, so i won't belabor that point.

SH

Sanford Hess Sat 20 May 2017 12:43PM

Gordon - that was one of the spaces we brainstormed. It has a few knocks as an option:
1) There's a monthly meeting on Tuesdays, so one week per month we'd have to make other plans. (http://www.ucimc.org/calendar)
2) Cost is not free. Assuming we're members, it's $45/hr for two rooms (and no price is listed for rooms beyond 2...) So let's assume it's $90/week. While it's good to support the IMC, that's a lot of $$ to raise. (http://www.ucimc.org/our_center)

MC

Matt Cho Sat 20 May 2017 10:07PM

im just gonna assume any location will come with its bag of pros/cons so my suggestion is for multiple locations/hosted on different days of the week - for instance parkland tues, ew wed, and perhaps the library/imc/adult ed/etc on thurs. a distributed hack night model could address (1) those that might have a conflict with a certain day of the week (such as a tues or wed), (2) those that require a particular location out of accessibility/convenience (which is what this sounds like some of this is boiling down to), (3) growing the hack night audience (which i am for and agree ew along with other locations can help with). a future scenario could be several locationally distributed hack nights a week that allows the flexibility to hop around each one and then a big one where we can all get together at one location once a month. and if this helps, i am willing to manage or stay at the parkland location since i have a personal interest in hack culture on this side of the "fringe".

MC

Matt Cho Sat 20 May 2017 11:26PM

sorry, i reframed the topic because i think it was leading the discussion to one versus another after seeing some of the responses.

BG

Ben Galewsky Sun 21 May 2017 4:51AM

Reframing is good!

GS

Gordon Speagle Sun 21 May 2017 2:26PM

I can dig the distributed model, rectifies the either/or issue between research park and parkland. Tuesdays at Parkland have been working well for me, so I will help Matt whatever capacity he needs to keep that site going. And I can always provide rides to anyone who is having issues getting to a certain location.

BG

Ben Galewsky Sun 21 May 2017 4:22PM

While I share Matt's optimistic view of the future of civic tech in our area I would worry about diluting our efforts this early in the process. It takes a lot of organizational energy to bring our group together and the power of the community comes from collaboration between diverse membership.

I fear that at this point in our life-cycle, multiple hack nights would weaken the movement.

GS

Gordon Speagle Sun 21 May 2017 3:47PM

Also, the Douglass branch of the CPL has a couple of meetings rooms as well, and if a central location is a determining factor, we could look into meeting there once or twice a month.

EDIT: At no cost

BG

Ben Galewsky Sun 21 May 2017 4:50PM

I would love to use that space! My only proviso is that I think it's much more effective to have a single space that we meet week after week to build momentum. Changing spaces every week potentially makes it harder for people to find us.

SH

Sanford Hess Sun 21 May 2017 5:50PM

I'm not in favor of a 2nd night/space until we have our logistics better worked out. I have to nudge, hassle, and ask people just to get ONE night's food going. Like this week...

MC

Matt Cho Mon 22 May 2017 2:03PM

sanford, i stated that i was able to head up the parkland location and believe gordon offered to help also. it looks like jenny is going to run the ew one so i think the logistics piece is being taken off your plate unless you still want to have some role in it. i believe the only coordination going forward is what days to have them so they dont conflict. plus, i think this starts a good process of how to jumpstart other locations that want to have a hack night. unless i am totally mistaken and there should only be one hack night centralized in one location, which if so contradicts the notion of what we are even doing here in the first place if simply for the sake of logistics or convenience.

BG

Ben Galewsky Mon 22 May 2017 2:07PM

I still worry about losing critical mass, but in the spirit of experimentation I would support it as a second choice in a vote.

Let's try the polling mechanism of loomio. We can try a couple of scenarios.

BG

Poll Created Mon 22 May 2017 2:09PM

Where shall we meet Closed Thu 25 May 2017 2:02PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Move the Tuesday Session to Enterprise Works for the Summer 81.8% 9 BG A SH T KSA CC BE MR JA
Keep the Tuesday night session at Parkland and create a new session for the summer at Enterprise works 18.2% 2 GS MC
Keep the Tuesday night session at Parkland through the summer 0.0% 0  
Move the Tuesday night session to Parkland for the Summer and create a second session at Parkland 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 2 JC SL

11 of 13 people have voted (84%)

BE

Mon 22 May 2017 5:52PM

Move the Tuesday Session to Enterprise Works for the Summer

Central location; new attendees?

MR

Mon 22 May 2017 7:06PM

Move the Tuesday Session to Enterprise Works for the Summer

Nice of Parkland to let us use their space, but there have been a number of problems - Wifi, chairs, no projector. The location is also way out in NW Champaign.

BG

Ben Galewsky Mon 22 May 2017 7:17PM

Move the Tuesday Session to Enterprise Works for the Summer

Best to keep critical mass of group in one place for now. Parkland location is great, but unfriendly for those without cars

A

Amy Mon 22 May 2017 7:57PM

Move the Tuesday Session to Enterprise Works for the Summer

A new more centrally located location may draw some new interest and be more accessible to those who wish to join. Also, it might be an interesting start-up type vibe at EW.

KSA

Kit Santa Ana Mon 22 May 2017 11:07PM

Move the Tuesday Session to Enterprise Works for the Summer

It's fun, in an admittedly data dork sort of way, to see how other incubator spaces/groups do their thing. Not to mention super useful. "The more you know", I've been told.

MC

Matt Cho Tue 23 May 2017 2:40PM

Keep the Tuesday night session at Parkland and create a new session for the summer at Enterprise works

sigh

MC

Matt Cho Mon 22 May 2017 2:32PM

i dont know what a poll does but simplify what a majority already wants vs what a few of us have expressed, but for the spirit of keeping the survey fair you should also add: Keep the Tuesday night session to Parkland for the Summer and create a second session at EW

BG

Ben Galewsky Mon 22 May 2017 2:45PM

Yes! Thanks for keeping this fair! But good to clarify where we stand as a group right now

CC

Chieh-Li Chin Mon 22 May 2017 6:36PM

Thanks for bringing up this discussion, I am wondering if the third voting item should be "Move the Tuesday night session to Enterprise Works for the Summer and create a second session at Parkland"?

BG

Ben Galewsky Mon 22 May 2017 7:19PM

Sorry about the typo on the choice to KEEP the Tuesday at Parkland and add a new night at EW. Don't want to change the poll now that voting has started.