Loomio
Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:20AM

why loomio?

D DirectAdmin Public Seen by 280

recently it has been mentioned that loomio is not a good platform for collaborating on a document
the reasons cited for this is that people are not able to "directly" modify the document themselves and show markups

loomio was chosen so we can actually poll people about changes. so not everyone can just start overwriting the document

but maybe even this should be opened up to our members

IF we are to develop this documentation, do we need a different platform to do so?

what do you think?

DR

Derek Robertson Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:29AM

I would prefer a single editor so that the policy is only modified via a democratic vote, otherwise things could get messy.

GC

Greg Cassel Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:33AM

A single editor approach, or a very small group of equally trusted editors, is IMO often a viable and pragmatic approach to Google Docs collaboration (which I mentioned above) when a "May Comment" link is distributed to a broad, diverse group of people. The nice thing about Google Docs is that people can comment upon (and have ongoing 'threads' attached to) specific selections of text within a document.

GC

Greg Cassel Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:31AM

Loomio certainly isn't a complete tool for collaborative writing. There are several ways it can be coordinated with other tools. One thing which Loomio developers often do is link Google Docs to Loomio discussions. You can give people "May Comment" or "May Edit" links to such documents. Another approach, which can be used separately or coordinated with Google Docs, is Gitbooks. Enspiral has started to pursue a Gitbook approach, with some reference materials for people who are new to github.

DB

Damien Boshammer Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:36AM

Id say no, might be an idea to keep the original proposal/document intact. Even if to help avoid documenting the same thing in future proposals, also good to reflect on original to help progress the proposal further in future ammendments.

GC

Greg Cassel Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:48AM

Damien do you mean that you'd say no to using another platform, per DirectAdmin's original post here? (Thanks in advance for any clarification.)

GC

Greg Cassel Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:49AM

Maintaining the integrity of docs in some way or other is strongly advised, but old-fashioned solo or centralized control of all edits and suggestions is very limited. I mentioned Gitbooks because it provides thorough distributed version control capacity. Distributed version control has originated in, and focused on, software development, but I think it should be a fundamental tool for 21st century creative collaboration, including co-writing projects.

Google Docs itself has useful (but limited) revision and 'revert' abilities. All of these tools have strengths and weaknesses, and I'm personally working to help evolve some of them.

DB

Damien Boshammer Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:53AM

To clarify, Im open to any platform the group decides. I was just disagreeing to the altering of the original proposal, ultimately erasing it from existance.

KHB

Keith H. Burgess Fri 15 Jan 2016 1:24AM

I think it is fine just the way it is. Too many versions being placed on the forum will get confusing.
Keith.

AT

Andrew Thrift Fri 15 Jan 2016 4:34AM

I would rather keep Loomio. I see no need to edit documents until changes are agreed on and a new text proposed. I would like to avoid Google.

GC

Greg Cassel Fri 15 Jan 2016 5:39AM

I understand anyone wanting to avoid Google. Another option is a comment-enabled Etherpad hosted on Sandstorm . It should also be noted that github, which I also mentioned, is a private company. (Though it probably hosts more open source software projects than any other medium in the world.) One of my other back-burner projects is to develop a public domain distributed version control system.

Sticking with 'just Loomio' may be fine if people use reasonably clear, standard protocols to make and handle suggestions.

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