Loomio
Fri 11 Nov 2022 3:21PM

Co-ops joining social.coop

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Hi all, I'm new to the community so I would like some guidance on a question I have. I might be wrong, but looking through social.coop members, it looks like it is mostly formed by accounts of individuals, rather than organisations. With the recent takeover of Twitter, there will be co-ops looking for an alternative. Should we be encouraging them to join social.coop? Or would that change the culture of the organisation? Would social.coop have the capacity to absorb a large influx if a lot would join? And would we allow coops to cross-post from twitter (I think large co-op would likely go for that) - and therefore not really engage in the community? Or should we encourage larger co-ops to set up their own instances instead?

JC

juniper cameryn
Disagree
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

"Other organizations" seems too broad and unclear. Do we have code of conduct regarding organizations specifically? What kind of orgs? Can they advertise? If so what are they advertising etc.

SG

Shauna Gordon-McKeon
Agree
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

Agree, but echo the other commenters who say that guidelines or rules for which organizations can/should join join would be a good idea.

LF

Lynn Foster
Abstain
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

I support this in general. My concern is can the software properly support ActivityPub Group yet? I heard a rumor that there is some money to implement groups in a couple of apps, perhaps including Mastodon (?). That is great, but not here yet afaik. So that leaves groups to sign up as individuals and become an ActivityPub Person. And share passwords, etc. So, should we wait for proper software support and some standardization across the fediverse before explicitly encouraging groups?

NG

Noemi Giszpenc
Agree
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

Co-ops and other organizations use social media to reach folks who are interested in similar things, so why not let those groups have memberships? Would it cost more?

EL

Eliot Lash
Abstain
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

Might need to flesh out CoC on what acceptable behavior for groups is first. I think the idea is good overall.

BS

Billy Smith
Agree
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

While co-op members are welcome to join as individuals, when they are operating as a co-operative, it helps to have a main-point-of-contact, that you can approach directly. :D

I also means that the Succession functionality of the ( 5 Needed Functions ) won't be tied to any single individual, which helps reduce the potential for burn-out. :D

N

Nic
Abstain
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

Can we require them to be of Activity Pub type Organization rather than Person? I think Mastodon has supported that since 2018 - https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/6973 - tho I'm not sure how that's handled at an interface level.

CB

Christina Bowen
Agree
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

Socialroots.io is excited apply to join as a coop member of this group! agree with the language getting a bit more specifically cooperative.

JK

Jonas Kanafani
Agree
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

While members of coop organizations are welcome to join, I interpret this as organizations being able to onboard all of their members all at once. another interpretation might be that coops are able to create a "main" account representing their coop. If this is the case, it should be phrased as a separate allowed use case.

Edit: changed vote based on clarification by Nathan. Thanks :)

MN

Matt Noyes
Agree
Mon 14 Nov 2022 5:45PM

We have a number of organizational members already. We should encourage members of organizations to join, too, if they like.

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