Loomio
Mon 12 Apr 2021 12:52PM

CoTech Fund - Switch to 'Loomio community lifetime' plan

AC Animorph Co-op Public Seen by 82

Last year we paid $125 to Loomio as they introduced payment plans (we qualified for 'Community Annual'). The price was meant to vary every year depending on the number of users. We currently have 139 community users and were sent an invoice totalling $145.88, which is due.

However, in the meantime Loomio simplified its billing plans and offered 'Loomio community lifetime' option, a one-time $199 payment (plus sales tax where applicable) offering community groups (such as CoTech) the following:

-Lifetime subscription

-Unlimited members

-Unlimited discussions and decisions

-Unlimited subgroups

-Integrate Slack and Microsoft Teams

In this thread we want to propose to switch to this plan and get reimbursed for paying for it.

AC

Poll Created Mon 12 Apr 2021 1:03PM

To cover costs of Loomio community lifetime plan Closed Mon 19 Apr 2021 1:01PM

Outcome
by Animorph Co-op Tue 8 Jun 2021 3:00PM

Thanks for the support!

Our switch was successful. The payment was received by Loomio on 30 Apr 2021 9:30 PM NZST. Animorph will reclaim $199.00 from CoTech shortly.

Now we can use Loomio forever!

Since last year we need to pay for using Loomio.

In line with the spending mechanism of CoTech Fund, it is proposed to spend $199 on Loomio community lifetime plan.

CoTech membership is growing and we need to pay $150+ on annual basis. As described in the thread introduction, the one-off payment plan would provide us with a lifetime subscription for unlimited amount of members.

Animorph will make the payment and will get reimbursed by CoTech Fund.

This vote is only for the co-ops contributing to the fund. Please take a week to inspect the notion. If there are no objections, the spending will be approved.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 7 SWS CCC SF FLC AP AC LK
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 130 JD JA FL G ER IS MSC MP HR SG AM RW M M KB MK KB PB JT AW

7 of 137 people have voted (5%)

AC

Autonomic Co-operative
Agree
Mon 12 Apr 2021 1:03PM

Seems like the way to go.

SF

Shaun Fensom
Agree
Mon 12 Apr 2021 1:03PM

For CBN

FLC

Finn Lewis (Agile Collective)
Agree
Mon 12 Apr 2021 1:03PM

Sounds like a great plan, until such time as we get need staff at which point we'll be in a different position no doubt.

CCC

Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative)
Agree
Mon 12 Apr 2021 1:03PM

It would be nicer to use only use Discourse however it would probably cost more to develop a Discourse plugin to replace the Loomio voting options we use / need.

AH

Aaron Hirtenstein Mon 12 Apr 2021 3:19PM

Thanks for starting this Szczepan, I saw the latest update and wondered if we would be applicable so good to know we are.

One thing to raise: do we actually need Loomio for decision making or can our Discourse do the job?

I heard discourse has some plugins for this kind of thing and woould love to have one fewer space to be aware of! 🙂

Sorry for potentially opening a can of worms!

C

Code-Operative Mon 12 Apr 2021 8:40PM

I did a quick search and found this:

https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-decision-making-possible-on-discourse/178586

Personally I think if we can use one platform instead of two then this will be friendlier for most new users.. save a couple of hundred quid in the process.. worth the effort?

never used it myself though. Also lacking in-depth knowledge of Loomio ^^' (Calum)

LK

Lucy King Fri 16 Apr 2021 6:52PM

Yeah I actually just created some polls on the forum here (please respond if you haven't already!) and kinda thought the same - there's the ability to limit votes to fund members as well. It would be great to condense our platforms. Having said that.....there's no knowing which direction we'll go in the future. Maybe it would be worthwhile having the lifetime membership whilst it's on offer!

CCC

Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) Sat 17 Apr 2021 10:35AM

Discourse doesn't have the comprehensive voting options that Loomio features, the Is Decision Making Possible on Discourse? thread @Code-Operative linked to above, mentions a new Discourse voting plugin, I'm installing this plugin now, once it is installed we could try enabling on some categories and see if it is a good enough replacement for Loomio?

CCC

Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) Sat 17 Apr 2021 11:11AM

The Discourse voting plugin has been enabled on the CoTech Internal category on the Discourse forum, I'm not convinced it is a suitable replacement for Loomio.

C

Code-Operative Sun 18 Apr 2021 4:34PM

@Chris Croome (Webarchitects Co-operative) at first glance I've only seen a couple of basic single-option, multi-option and thread upvoting on Discourse

Loomio offers a some other types of poll that it seems aren't supported natively on Discourse

JMF

James Mead (Go Free Range) Wed 21 Apr 2021 8:22AM

Sorry - we seem to have missed the closing date on this one. In case it helps, we (Go Free Range) would have voted in favour! ✅